S. Korea to formally blame N. Korea for sinking

mcrain

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South Korea will formally blame North Korea on Thursday for launching a torpedo at one of its warships in March, causing an explosion that killed 46 sailors and heightened tensions in one of the world's most perilous regions, U.S. and East Asian officials said.

South Korea reached its conclusion that North Korea was responsible for the attack after investigators from Australia, Britain, Sweden and the United States pieced together portions of the ship at the port of Pyongtaek, 40 miles southwest of Seoul. The Cheonan sank on March 26, following an explosion that rocked the vessel as it sailed in the Yellow Sea off South Korea's west coast.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because South Korea has yet to disclose the findings of the investigation, said that subsequent analysis determined that the torpedo was identical to a North Korean torpedo that had previously been obtained by South Korea.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37215526/ns/world_news-washington_post/

Does this make any sense? Why would N. Korea have done this, and why did their military posture not change leading up to, or after, this happened? Seems very strange, even for N. Korea.
 

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Two North Korean patrol boats entered South Korean waters Saturday night but retreated after the South Korean Navy fired warning shots.
The incidents were the first violations of the Northern Limit Line, the de facto inter-Korean sea border, since the sinking of a South Korean naval vessel Cheonan March 26.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said Sunday that a North Korean patrol boat crossed the border around 10:13 p.m. Saturday, going 2.5 kilometers into South Korean waters. The ship returned to the North 30 minutes after receiving a warning from the South Korean Navy.

The North Korean boat initially reacted by issuing its own warning, the first act of its kind by the North, claiming that a South Korean naval vessel was violating North Korean territorial waters.

The second North Korean patrol boat sailed 2.3 kilometers into South Korean waters about 47 minutes later at 11:30 p.m. It continued to go south despite the South Korean Navy’s warning, only to retreat nine minutes later after the South fired two warning shots, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.
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NK may be trying to push the limits of the already strained relationship with SK. It seems to be their M.O. to act a little crazy to get attention and money. They may be working towards another 500 million dollar bribe.
 

mkrishnan

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I'm more interested in what action, if any, South Korea will take.
The article claims SK will request UN sanctions, request an extension of US military involvement / management in the peninsula, and also suggests they will discontinue dialog, making it sound like they do not intend a military response.

I haven't heard of any other credible theory regarding this. SK seems to have been very patient with this one.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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South Korea should just ask the U.S to unload every nuclear weapon we have onto North Korean soil and be done with their D.A. Problem over or better yet boycott all China made goods until China does something with this piss poor country of weapons before food. If it wasnt for China there would be no North Korea. I think we should utterly destroy North Korea but thats just me.
 

Eraserhead

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South Korea should just ask the U.S to unload every nuclear weapon we have onto North Korean soil
And kill a whole bunch of civilians too. Great move!


Problem over or better yet boycott all China made goods until China does something with this piss poor country of weapons before food. If it wasnt for China there would be no North Korea.
So what should the Chinese do? North Korea is a sovereign nation.
 

chrmjenkins

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Yes it's just you. The loss of innocent life would be absolutely horrendous and indefensible.
They're obviously complicit with the people in power. What could be stopping them from speaking out if they didn't agree?
 

sysiphus

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So what should the Chinese do? North Korea is a sovereign nation.
Well, duh. But the Chinese have been keeping the DPRK afloat for decades. Cut off Chinese support and North Korea falls apart within five years, whether or not you think it's the right thing to do.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Well they now have the parts from the torpedo that blew up the Corvette, Its time to hold North Korea and its puppet master China responsible for its actions.
 

mcrain

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Well they now have the parts from the torpedo that blew up the Corvette, Its time to hold North Korea and its puppet master China responsible for its actions.
That would be GW Bush era checkers. Today, we as a country have grown up and are playing Chess. China is on board with Russia in dealing with Iran, so maybe, a smarter approach would be better.

Out of curiosity, do you have any better ideas?
 

Zombie Acorn

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That would be GW Bush era checkers. Today, we as a country have grown up and are playing Chess. China is on board with Russia in dealing with Iran, so maybe, a smarter approach would be better.

Out of curiosity, do you have any better ideas?
You act like the US working with other nations is unprecedented.

Added to the fact that Bush started these sanctions and at the time the dems were bitching about them because it might start another war.
 

mcrain

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Come on! 2007 is practically ancient history. :) :cool:
Examples of the Bush administration working with China and Russia to get a UN resolution passed please?

(edit) Unilateral. Your link is a Fail. Do you have a single example of GWB using dipolomacy to get Russia or China to agree to anything.
 

Zombie Acorn

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Examples of the Bush administration working with China and Russia to get a UN resolution passed please?

(edit) Unilateral. Your link is a Fail. Do you have a single example of GWB using dipolomacy to get Russia or China to agree to anything.
meah

Bush said he was pleased that leaders of China, South Korea, Japan and Russia, in telephone calls during the past few days, agreed that the reclusive communist regime should not be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.

“My message was that we want to solve this problem diplomatically, and the best way to solve this problem diplomatically is for all of us to be working in concert,” Bush said.
 

Zombie Acorn

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Did they agree to ANY UN resolutions? If not, then FAIL.

Oh, was there ever any dipolomatic anything? If not, then FAIL!
Don't shift the goal posts, you said to find an instance of Bush using diplomacy to get China and Russia to agree on anything. They agreed that NK shouldn't have nukes.