Applejuiced

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The ModMyi and ZodTTD/MacCiti Cydia repositories have been shut down.

Dennis Bednarz, Editor-in-Chief at ModMy, announced the repository's archival in a blog post yesterday:

It's a sad day indeed. We, unfortunately, have to announce that the ModMyi Cydia Repository has been archived and won't be taking any new packages. After ModMy, Mobile Nations (ModMy's parent company) and SaurikIT finished our discussions, there was a clear but sad result to the issue of Cydia and repositories. ModMyi was not plausible to keep going as server costs were insane and the money the repository generated was way below the required amount to keep the repository, not with an economic gain, but to even keep it non-profit. So we are very sad to say that after 10 wonderful years with the community, the ModMyi repository ownership has transferred over to SaurikIT where the repository was archived.

A few days prior, MacCiti announced it was shutting down on Twitter.

...was a great ride. Thank you.

You can still access your previously purchased or downloaded packages from ModMyi but the repository has been frozen in time. Nothing will be added going forward. Those looking for a new home should consider BigBoss, as it's the last major repository available.

A combination of factors have led to a decline in jailbreaking. It's become increasingly difficult for hackers and security researchers to jailbreak Apple's mobile operating system. Those that are able to produce a jailbreak can sell it for six or seven figures, leaving little incentive to release it publicly. In addition, many of the features that were only available to jailbroken users are now baked into iOS. This means that most users just don't need a jailbreak anymore.

For those of us who've been around from the beginning, this is definitely a sad day. We can only hope that a future jailbreak of iOS 11 will keep the jailbreak community alive.
 
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Applejuiced

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Hmmm…well. This just solidifies my resolve to move to Android in early 2018.

Apple will relentlessly continue to deny users the right to customize their device so I will not be giving them any more of my money for phones.

It's been fun.

I cant blame you bro.
No customization or options to the user to set things up they way they like or for what works best for them.
They decide what and how and some sheep just keep handing them their money each year and Apple tells them what they should like or use.
 
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They decide what and how and some sheep just keep handing them their money each year and Apple tells them what they should like or use.
I agree with that. There are plenty of people in this world who prefer not to think about the technology they use. They are willing to accept whatever things are imposed upon them to avoid having to think (if they are even aware).
 
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I really like jailbreaking my iOS devices, but I'll not switch to android because I can't jailbreak anymore.

Jailbreak for me is a nice bonus. Yes I love costomize my phone, but in every day real usage, I use my phone for basically call, text, surfing the web and watch some videos here and there. And my iPad is basically a media consumption.

So in the end, jailbreak or not, it will not change anything important for me at least. I still prefer stock iOS over Android, and I like that all my Apple devices sync flawlessly together.
 

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Apple added all the things I used to jailbreak for. I used to jailbreak every time one came out, and I think I was probably jailbroken from iOS 3-8.

I don't want to see it go away, but I have no need for it anymore. I also don't have the time, customizing your phone is fun, but bricking and having to do a restore was always a freaking hassle. I'll always remember the days though when you were the awesome kid because your iPhone actually had a wallpaper.
 
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Applejuiced

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I really like jailbreaking my iOS devices, but I'll not switch to android because I can't jailbreak anymore.

Jailbreak for me is a nice bonus. Yes I love costomize my phone, but in every day real usage, I use my phone for basically call, text, surfing the web and watch some videos here and there. And my iPad is basically a media consumption.

So in the end, jailbreak or not, it will not change anything important for me at least. I still prefer stock iOS over Android, and I like that all my Apple devices sync flawlessly together.

Same here, I can't see myself switching to android. Even though I love jb and customizing.
I guess I'll sit and wait for an iOS 11 jb with lots of hopes and dreams.
Most likely won't come true though:D
 
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I really like jailbreaking my iOS devices, but I'll not switch to android because I can't jailbreak anymore.

Jailbreak for me is a nice bonus. Yes I love costomize my phone, but in every day real usage, I use my phone for basically call, text, surfing the web and watch some videos here and there. And my iPad is basically a media consumption.

So in the end, jailbreak or not, it will not change anything important for me at least. I still prefer stock iOS over Android, and I like that all my Apple devices sync flawlessly together.
You and I are different.

I don't enjoy stock all that much and I live with my devices for two years or more. I want to enjoy my device for that amount of time.

Additionally, I don't own the kinds of Macs that will sync with Apple's services. They never did to begin with. So, where you have syncing with services I have alternative services and workarounds that work with not only my Macs but other devices. These services are platform independent.

I'm not tied to Apple.

The inability to make stock iOS look and function the way I want it going forward then is now a dealbreaker for me and I will move on.

That will be a while yet though. Not ready to replace my 6s+ or it's 200+ tweaks that keep me sane.
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Apple added all the things I used to jailbreak for. I used to jailbreak every time one came out, and I think I was probably jailbroken from iOS 3-8.

I don't want to see it go away, but I have no need for it anymore. I also don't have the time, customizing your phone is fun, but bricking and having to do a restore was always a freaking hassle. I'll always remember the days though when you were the awesome kid because your iPhone actually had a wallpaper.
Apple still has things to do before it makes my 200+ tweaks irrelevant. One of the major things is that they keep hinting at a dark mode, but have yet to give one stock.

So jailbreaking for Eclipse is still there at least.

As to your second paragraph, I often find these statements interesting. I have a job, two kids, a wife in school and all four of us go four different places every morning.

Yet I still have time for jailbreaking and themeing. I still have time for the stable of Macs and PCs I use.

It's down to priorities I guess. I don't really have a life and we don't go a lot of places so that may be it. But I am also not theming my brains out either. When a JB drops I usually theme my device to where I want it and then leave it. With the periodic switch of wallpaper that's been the way of it for the last two years.

Sorry and no offense, but I don't buy the "I don't have the time arugment". It's all about where your priorities are and jailbreaking is not a priority for you. Other things are. That's fine because jailbreaking isn't something earth shatteringly important.

But if it was a priority, I'd bet you'd find the time from somewhere. People usually find the time for their priorities. Hence I don't buy the time argument.
 
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You and I are different.

I don't enjoy stock all that much and I live with my devices for two years or more. I want to enjoy my device for that amount of time.

Additionally, I don't own the kinds of Macs that will sync with Apple's services. They never did to begin with. So, where you have syncing with services I have alternative services and workarounds that work with not only my Macs but other devices. These services are platform independent.

I'm not tied to Apple.

The inability to make stock iOS look and function the way I want it going forward then is now a dealbreaker for me and I will move on.

That will be a while yet though. Not ready to replace my 6s+ or it's 200+ tweaks that keep me sane.
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Apple still has things to do before it makes my 200+ tweaks irrelevant. One of the major things is that they keep hinting at a dark mode, but have yet to give one stock.

So jailbreaking for Eclipse is still there at least.

As to your second paragraph, I often find these statements interesting. I have a job, two kids, a wife in school and all four of us go four different places every morning.

Yet I still have time for jailbreaking and themeing. I still have time for the stable of Macs and PCs I use.

It's down to priorities I guess. I don't really have a life and we don't go a lot of places so that may be it. But I am also not theming my brains out either. When a JB drops I usually theme my device to where I want it and then leave it. With the periodic switch of wallpaper that's been the way of it for the last two years.

Sorry and no offense, but I don't buy the "I don't have the time arugment". It's all about where your priorities are and jailbreaking is not a priority for you. Other things are. That's fine because jailbreaking isn't something earth shatteringly important.

But if it was a priority, I'd bet you'd find the time from somewhere. People usually find the time for their priorities. Hence I don't buy the time argument.


Probably true, i'm on the road a -lot- and I've come to appreciate IOS's stability and reliance to get me where I need to go, and be able to contact others if needed. Sometimes it might be boring but it always works, which I really appreciate.

I think it's mainly to due with my first paragraph, since Apple has added almost everything I need, the -chance- of having to fiddle and mess with my phone no longer appeals to me. I do find it sad though that jailbreaking is losing traction. Two tweaks that I will always love that have not been included where one was you could control music with the screen off (swipe right to skip, tap to pause etc) (however it was never updated after IOS 5) and another which was simply aesthetic, when you moved your finger on the home/lock screen water ripples would go everywhere. So much better than Apples stupid "moving" wallpaper with force touch.
 
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You and I are different.

I don't enjoy stock all that much and I live with my devices for two years or more. I want to enjoy my device for that amount of time.

Additionally, I don't own the kinds of Macs that will sync with Apple's services. They never did to begin with. So, where you have syncing with services I have alternative services and workarounds that work with not only my Macs but other devices. These services are platform independent.

I'm not tied to Apple.

The inability to make stock iOS look and function the way I want it going forward then is now a dealbreaker for me and I will move on.

That will be a while yet though. Not ready to replace my 6s+ or it's 200+ tweaks that keep me sane.
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Apple still has things to do before it makes my 200+ tweaks irrelevant. One of the major things is that they keep hinting at a dark mode, but have yet to give one stock.

So jailbreaking for Eclipse is still there at least.

As to your second paragraph, I often find these statements interesting. I have a job, two kids, a wife in school and all four of us go four different places every morning.

Yet I still have time for jailbreaking and themeing. I still have time for the stable of Macs and PCs I use.

It's down to priorities I guess. I don't really have a life and we don't go a lot of places so that may be it. But I am also not theming my brains out either. When a JB drops I usually theme my device to where I want it and then leave it. With the periodic switch of wallpaper that's been the way of it for the last two years.

Sorry and no offense, but I don't buy the "I don't have the time arugment". It's all about where your priorities are and jailbreaking is not a priority for you. Other things are. That's fine because jailbreaking isn't something earth shatteringly important.

But if it was a priority, I'd bet you'd find the time from somewhere. People usually find the time for their priorities. Hence I don't buy the time argument.
I don't feel like I'm tied to apple, I still use third party alternatives but the things I sync between my mac and iPhone are things that I like and work great so, no I just don't want to use "alternatives" when it just works fine for me.

I prefer stock iOS over Android because I always had an iPhone, its simple and it just works. I also like that Apple support their phones for years with major iOS releases because like you, I don't change my phone every year or two. I purchased a Nexus 7 tablet a couple years ago just to test Android because I love technology and I like to test as many OS I can. In fact, I liked my tablet, but I was still not convinced to completely switch to Android for multiple reasons.

Same thing with computers. I'm a lifetime Windows user, its just since last year that I finally bought an iMac just because I wanted to have something new and completely different experience, and because I liked all the features when you have multiple Apple devices and I like the simplicity of macOS. I still have windows installed via bootcamp, so for me, having an iMac is just the best of both worlds.

So, of course I love jailbreaking, and I think jailbreak have many tweaks that not only customize but also, make your phone more useful, I 100% agree with that. But with the question if I would still buy iPhone if jailbreak is dead, the answer is yes, because I still think stock iOS, even if its a little bland, just works for things I usually do and need with a smartphone because if I really, really want customization, I would choose an Android phone from the start instead of jailbreaking all the time with ios.

For me, jailbreak are there for people who prefer to have an iPhone for all the great Apple features, but being able to do more with their phone. If you really dont like stock iOS from the start, I dont think an iPhone was a good choice for you to begin with, but its just my opinion.
 
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I really need jailbreak for my iPhone X after 3 years with iPhone 6 jb iOS 9.0.1. I'm desperate for the jailbreak.

But I'm going no where near any other phone. It's always going to be iPhone all the way until further notice. The prestige of carrying iPhone alone is more than enough to make me keep using it.
 

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If you really dont like stock iOS from the start, I dont think an iPhone was a good choice for you to begin with, but its just my opinion.
I liked iOS 6 from the beginning. I liked the iPhone 5.

Then Apple launched iOS 7 and blinding white and primary colors were everywhere as well as the flat OS. It looked like a Fisher-Price/Playskool toy had blown up!

Apple also took away black with the 5s and gaves us the camera bump (worse with each new design) and antenna lines with the 6/6+.

I did end up with the 6s+, but not by personal direct choice.

I gave Apple a few chances to rescind it's direction with the 7/7+, 8/8+ but they doubled down on fugly with the X and have not changed the interface since iOS 7. They still do not offer a dark mode.

So, you are right if we are speaking of the latest. But it was iOS 6 and the iPhone 5 that brought me originally. Had Apple continued in that direction things would be different.
 
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I was big in to Jailbreaking for a while, it was a lot of fun up until iOS 9 I think, when Apple started implementing some of the tweaks and it started becoming more and more difficult to get a decent untethered JB.... So I guess this doesn't affect me that much since I haven't Jailbroken a device for over 2 years now.
 
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I don't feel like I'm tied to apple, I still use third party alternatives but the things I sync between my mac and iPhone are things that I like and work great so, no I just don't want to use "alternatives" when it just works fine for me.

I prefer stock iOS over Android because I always had an iPhone, its simple and it just works. I also like that Apple support their phones for years with major iOS releases because like you, I don't change my phone every year or two. I purchased a Nexus 7 tablet a couple years ago just to test Android because I love technology and I like to test as many OS I can. In fact, I liked my tablet, but I was still not convinced to completely switch to Android for multiple reasons.

Same thing with computers. I'm a lifetime Windows user, its just since last year that I finally bought an iMac just because I wanted to have something new and completely different experience, and because I liked all the features when you have multiple Apple devices and I like the simplicity of macOS. I still have windows installed via bootcamp, so for me, having an iMac is just the best of both worlds.

So, of course I love jailbreaking, and I think jailbreak have many tweaks that not only customize but also, make your phone more useful, I 100% agree with that. But with the question if I would still buy iPhone if jailbreak is dead, the answer is yes, because I still think stock iOS, even if its a little bland, just works for things I usually do and need with a smartphone because if I really, really want customization, I would choose an Android phone from the start instead of jailbreaking all the time with ios.
I have to use alternatives.

There is currently no way to force 2003 to 2006 era PowerMacs and PowerBooks running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard, along with a 2006 MBP running 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, to use current Apple services. It's one of the reasons I jailbreak.

iFile, RemoteMessages, Bridge/Bolt, etc. enable me to do things that ordinarily cannot be done. Remove the jailbreak and force me to be all stock and communicating with my Macs will be difficult.

It's a choice of course, updating could be done. But I do work on a modern MacPro at work and I see nothing in Yosemite or newer that attracts me.

I came from Windows Mobile Professional 6.1 so the iPhone 5 was my first full purchase of an iPhone. I was prepared to go into the ecosystem, but of course Apple changed things with the lightning connector (no syncing with a PowerBook G4) and the early forms of iCloud did not allow push of Contacts and Calendars from third party products (Entourage 2008). So, workarounds had to be found.

iOS works for you and that's fine. But this direction Apple is going in where it's trying to lock things down even more is not a path I wish to follow. You say you like the simplicity of macOS. I'm not fond of Apple removing things like the ability to modify the Finder or taking useful stuff out of Disk Utility. In Apple's attempt to idiot-proof the system and make it easier for the average user to use, they have removed tools and features that make bending the OS to your will much more difficult. This is one of the reasons I stick with older Macs.

By no means will I be leaving overnight and I still intend to purchase an iPad in 2018 that will probably stay stock. But that type of thing is not my primary device.
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I was big in to Jailbreaking for a while, it was a lot of fun up until iOS 9 I think, when Apple started implementing some of the tweaks and it started becoming more and more difficult to get a decent untethered JB.... So I guess this doesn't affect me that much since I haven't Jailbroken a device for over 2 years now.
I've always found this curious…that people are willing to accept Apple's implementation of things over what a tweak provided.

So, Apple has implemented stuff. Did they do it as well as a tweak?

Nightmode versus f.lux?
Quick Reply versus BiteSMS?
Call blocking versus iBlacklist?
Etc…

Or is it just that what Apple has provided is simply enough or more than what you need? I could understand that as not everyone used/uses all the features of a particular tweak or app.

But it's my opinion that while Apple has indeed implemented things they have either done a half-assed job with it or watered it down. I'm not willing to accept that just to say I don't need a jailbreak any more because Apple implemented a tweak's features (poorly).
 
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I have to use alternatives.

There is currently no way to force 2003 to 2006 era PowerMacs and PowerBooks running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard, along with a 2006 MBP running 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, to use current Apple services. It's one of the reasons I jailbreak.

iFile, RemoteMessages, Bridge/Bolt, etc. enable me to do things that ordinarily cannot be done. Remove the jailbreak and force me to be all stock and communicating with my Macs will be difficult.

It's a choice of course, updating could be done. But I do work on a modern MacPro at work and I see nothing in Yosemite or newer that attracts me.

I came from Windows Mobile Professional 6.1 so the iPhone 5 was my first full purchase of an iPhone. I was prepared to go into the ecosystem, but of course Apple changed things with the lightning connector (no syncing with a PowerBook G4) and the early forms of iCloud did not allow push of Contacts and Calendars from third party products (Entourage 2008). So, workarounds had to be found.

iOS works for you and that's fine. But this direction Apple is going in where it's trying to lock things down even more is not a path I wish to follow. You say you like the simplicity of macOS. I'm not fond of Apple removing things like the ability to modify the Finder or taking useful stuff out of Disk Utility. In Apple's attempt to idiot-proof the system and make it easier for the average user to use, they have removed tools and features that make bending the OS to your will much more difficult. This is one of the reasons I stick with older Macs.

By no means will I be leaving overnight and I still intend to purchase an iPad in 2018 that will probably stay stock. But that type of thing is not my primary device.
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I've always found this curious…that people are willing to accept Apple's implementation of things over what a tweak provided.

So, Apple has implemented stuff. Did they do it as well as a tweak?

Nightmode versus f.lux?
Quick Reply versus BiteSMS?
Call blocking versus iBlacklist?
Etc…

Or is it just that what Apple has provided is simply enough or more than what you need? I could understand that as not everyone used/uses all the features of a particular tweak or app.

But it's my opinion that while Apple has indeed implemented things they have either done a half-assed job with it or watered it down. I'm not willing to accept that just to say I don't need a jailbreak any more because Apple implemented a tweak's features (poorly).

it's not that Apple provided a better implemented alternative to the tweak.... It's that you dont have to work as hard to get it... you have to admit over the years its become more and more difficult to jailbreak, while apple's implementation is not as good it is more convenient since its stock and you don't have to jump through hoops to get it. I like trying some of the new features on iOS releases and when it became impossible to jailbreak unless you kept your phone on an older version of iOS for a long time I just kind of lost interest.
 

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it's not that Apple provided a better implemented alternative to the tweak.... It's that you dont have to work as hard to get it... you have to admit over the years its become more and more difficult to jailbreak, while apple's implementation is not as good it is more convenient since its stock and you don't have to jump through hoops to get it. I like trying some of the new features on iOS releases and when it became impossible to jailbreak unless you kept your phone on an older version of iOS for a long time I just kind of lost interest.
I see what you're saying and I don't deny the difficulty of recent jailbreaks.

You are valuing convenience over feature set. I am valuing feature set over convenience - even if waiting for a jailbreak inconveniences me greatly.

That's fine, at least I see your reasoning behind this. Thank you!
 
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Hmmm…well. This just solidifies my resolve to move to Android in early 2018.

Apple will relentlessly continue to deny users the right to customize their device so I will not be giving them any more of my money for phones.

It's been fun.

The ModMyi and ZodTTD/MacCiti Cydia repositories have been shut down.

Dennis Bednarz, Editor-in-Chief at ModMy, announced the repository's archival in a blog post yesterday:

It's a sad day indeed. We, unfortunately, have to announce that the ModMyi Cydia Repository has been archived and won't be taking any new packages. After ModMy, Mobile Nations (ModMy's parent company) and SaurikIT finished our discussions, there was a clear but sad result to the issue of Cydia and repositories. ModMyi was not plausible to keep going as server costs were insane and the money the repository generated was way below the required amount to keep the repository, not with an economic gain, but to even keep it non-profit. So we are very sad to say that after 10 wonderful years with the community, the ModMyi repository ownership has transferred over to SaurikIT where the repository was archived.

A few days prior, MacCiti announced it was shutting down on Twitter.

...was a great ride. Thank you.

You can still access your previously purchased or downloaded packages from ModMyi but the repository has been frozen in time. Nothing will be added going forward. Those looking for a new home should consider BigBoss, as it's the last major repository available.

A combination of factors have led to a decline in jailbreaking. It's become increasingly difficult for hackers and security researchers to jailbreak Apple's mobile operating system. Those that are able to produce a jailbreak can sell it for six or seven figures, leaving little incentive to release it publicly. In addition, many of the features that were only available to jailbroken users are now baked into iOS. This means that most users just don't need a jailbreak anymore.

For those of us who've been around from the beginning, this is definitely a sad day. We can only hope that a future jailbreak of iOS 11 will keep the jailbreak community alive.
Long live jailbreak!!
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The ModMyi and ZodTTD/MacCiti Cydia repositories have been shut down.

Dennis Bednarz, Editor-in-Chief at ModMy, announced the repository's archival in a blog post yesterday:

It's a sad day indeed. We, unfortunately, have to announce that the ModMyi Cydia Repository has been archived and won't be taking any new packages. After ModMy, Mobile Nations (ModMy's parent company) and SaurikIT finished our discussions, there was a clear but sad result to the issue of Cydia and repositories. ModMyi was not plausible to keep going as server costs were insane and the money the repository generated was way below the required amount to keep the repository, not with an economic gain, but to even keep it non-profit. So we are very sad to say that after 10 wonderful years with the community, the ModMyi repository ownership has transferred over to SaurikIT where the repository was archived.

A few days prior, MacCiti announced it was shutting down on Twitter.

...was a great ride. Thank you.

You can still access your previously purchased or downloaded packages from ModMyi but the repository has been frozen in time. Nothing will be added going forward. Those looking for a new home should consider BigBoss, as it's the last major repository available.

A combination of factors have led to a decline in jailbreaking. It's become increasingly difficult for hackers and security researchers to jailbreak Apple's mobile operating system. Those that are able to produce a jailbreak can sell it for six or seven figures, leaving little incentive to release it publicly. In addition, many of the features that were only available to jailbroken users are now baked into iOS. This means that most users just don't need a jailbreak anymore.

For those of us who've been around from the beginning, this is definitely a sad day. We can only hope that a future jailbreak of iOS 11 will keep the jailbreak community alive.

Could it be the fact that apple is paying off anyone who comes up with a jailbreak?
 
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I really need jailbreak for my iPhone X after 3 years with iPhone 6 jb iOS 9.0.1. I'm desperate for the jailbreak.

But I'm going no where near any other phone. It's always going to be iPhone all the way until further notice. The prestige of carrying iPhone alone is more than enough to make me keep using it.

You say prestige, I say sheep. I bet you like those cases that have a hole in the back to show off the Apple logo as well.

Only joking of course.

I bought two iPhone 10's this year and sold them the same day and have just got back from Abu Dhabi F1 on the profit from them.
 

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Could it be the fact that apple is paying off anyone who comes up with a jailbreak?

That's pretty much what its happening.
Apple is paying hundreds of thousands of dollars and even offering hackers jobs at Apple for finding, disclosing and patching exploits.
Would you release a public jailbreak and wait for people to donate $5-10 to you here and there? Or take the sure option and way more money from Apple?
 
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