Safari still doesn’t support 4K!

Discussion in 'macOS Mojave (10.14)' started by Miltz, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. Miltz macrumors 6502a

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    I’m surprised more people aren’t upset that Safari still doesn’t support 4K on YouTube! Having to open chrome just to use YouTube, it’s extremely annoying. It’s been over a year and both Apple and Google still are making the customer suffer.
     
  2. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    It’s just not that important to me. I’m not suffering at all.
     
  3. pentool macrumors member

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    Don't care about 4K either. As a matter of fact, when I view full screen content on YT @720p, it is perfectly acceptable for me - especially if the original 720p content was from a high quality recording.
     
  4. Banglazed macrumors demi-god

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    Apple doesn't support VP9 for Youtube 4K! Highest is 1080p.
     
  5. TokMok3 macrumors 6502a

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    I might be wrong with this, but the reason could be that 4k video drains your battery faster because it requires more processing power.
     
  6. GigabitEthernet macrumors 6502a

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    It’s not. It’s because 4K for YouTube uses a codec that Apple don’t support.
     
  7. DeadeyeM macrumors regular

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    Is it me or did the bitrate of Safari 12 or Mojave watching youtube has increased? I don't know but i just feel i'm watching a bit higher quality videos
     
  8. n-evo macrumors 65816

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    If that's a genuine issue Safari should switch to 4K the second you plug your charger in.
     
  9. hemphigher macrumors newbie

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    I was surprised too when I realise it, but, then I remember that Apple Fans don't care about having the best things, only what Apple says are the best at the time they say.
    I am very upset, but, that's why I use Chrome
     
  10. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    Who cares?
    FYI: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/no-4k-dolby-vision-hdr-support-on-imac-pro.2183921/
    And many other threads before you. There is search field on this screen...
    Note: YouTube = Google = maker of Safari. Guess how much help Apple gets to implement Google stuff???
     
  11. n-evo macrumors 65816

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    You're confusing Safari with Chrome.
     
  12. avz macrumors 6502

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    Well, Safari Technology Preview does support 4K on YouTube, I can even watch it on my MacBook5,1 if I make the playback slower.
     
  13. mylittlepwny macrumors member

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    I keep Chrome on my mac pretty much only because it supports VP9. I often use my mac plugged into my TV to watch youtube so I can block ads. You definitely need a powerful mac to even do it though because unlike on windows its software decoded. My 6 core macbook can handle 4k60 VP9 but no higher. Transcoded to H.265 which is hardware decoded it can play 8k60 smoothly. Apple really needs to get on this...
     
  14. russell_314 macrumors 6502

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    I only watch it on my 1080P monitor so 4K would be pointless. To me 4K is great for movies or whatever but I don't see the point for YouTube. I guess it depends on the content you watch though. I will never install Google anything on my Mac. I don't care if it gets me YouTube in 400K LOL
     
  15. avz macrumors 6502

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    I just tried 4K YouTube in Safari on a MacBook5,1 and it is working. What am I missing? Please help me understand.

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  16. zorinlynx macrumors 603

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    Does anyone know why Safari doesn't support VP9 yet? It's a royalty-free codec; it literally costs Apple $0 to provide greater functionality.
     
  17. avz macrumors 6502

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    I think I got it. 4K H.264 streams are supported but not 4K WEBM/VP9.

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  18. ThisBougieLife macrumors 68000

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    Yes, this is one reason why I can't exclusively use Safari. I prefer to watch most 4K YouTube videos in 4K. Have to use Chrome or Firefox for that.

    But considering how long it took to get an Amazon Prime app for Apple TV, I don't think Safari will support 4K YouTube videos any time soon.
     
  19. n-evo macrumors 65816

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    From what I understand Google/YouTube is deliberately hiding 4K in Safari. Most if not all 4K video's are apparently uploaded in both the VP9 codec and 4K H.264 (which Safari supports) to YouTube, yet YouTube won't snow the latter.

    Found the article too: https://www.onemorething.nl/2017/10/youtube-verbergt-4k-video-apple/ (In Dutch)
     
  20. redheeler macrumors 604

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    Or an external media player (IINA or VLC through youtube-dl). This has become my preferred method for watching 4K YouTube.
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    4K at 60fps VP9 playback is buttery smooth in VLC on my Late 2015 5K iMac. Playback in the browser tends to drop more frames.
     

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