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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by mscriv, Jan 6, 2010.
Seriously, what kind of schmuck does this?
while it's obviously wrong, it's not against the law is it?
Agreed, that is just sad.
Fake checks are against the law.
The person(s) responsible for this should be forced to pay a donation to the SA and all the other charities it sent cheques to. Too bad they'll probably never be caught.
You'd have to read the appropriate laws carefully, but I think this might fall under fraud. The ****ard made the Salvation Army believe that they received $25,000, which was not the truth, and they acted on that false information by spending money. That is one part of fraud: Making someone act on an information that is false. The other part of fraud would either be "to enrich yourself" or "to harm that party"; that's what you would need to check. If fraud is "harming another party", then this would have been fraud.
I'm sorry, but even prank phone-calls are against the law. How could this not be?
Personally - I would not do that, especially with such a large sum of money.
The guy who did this is clearly a utter bastards and deserves to pay for these actions - but why the assumed it would clear, I do not know - I would not allow myself to be bitten in the same way.
Seriously, who spends money before a check clears? Poor management here.
even though the SA is not one of my fav charities, it's really, really low to do something like that.
i find surprising not only that they spend the money before the check cleared, but also that they don't have enough cash to buffer it. It doesn't seem like a large amount for such a massive organization.
On the positive side, i am sure that they'll get plenty of sympathy donations just to help them out in this situation which will more than make up for it, even from people -like me- who would not normally consider them as a typical destination for their donations.
But people innocently write checks that bounce all the time. I guess this is where lawyers come into play.
Well the past 2 years I can understand the buffer being in bad shape. Demand for the services are near record highs but giving is at record lows. A bad combonation. Charity gets double hit during bad times as they loss the money had incoming and have to spend more to help the people they are there to help.
We are 2 years into this bad economy and we have years to go before it will be even close to recovering. 2015 is the new best base number but it already projected that the next 10 years will be pretty bad.
It's a matter of intent, and a matter of causing damage. If you pay me by check, the check bounces, and you then give me cash, then there was no intent to damage me and no damage done, therefore no fraud.
If you don't have any money, order a new $2000 TV and pay by check, knowing that the check will bounce and without intent of ever paying, then this is likely fraud.
In this case, there was intent and damage. And giving me a fake check that looks like it comes from some local business is surely fraud.
What a crappy thing to do. Shame on them.