Samsung sells 63 million smartphones, dominates the market

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  1. KnightMan macrumors member

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    So I gotta say, so much for the argument that Samsung reports Units Shipped as Units Sold. Maybe this will stop the ridiculous argument. Who the heck I'm kidding, haters gonna hate.

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  2. sinsin07 macrumors 68030

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    Small potatoes


    Apple made more than Microsoft, Google, eBay, Yahoo, Amazon and Facebook combined in fiscal 2012

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    When Apple released its fourth quarter earnings in late October, the reaction from commentators, analysts and investors was largely negative. The company had missed earnings expectations, sold fewer iPads than expected and its margins had declined.

    What went by nearly unnoticed however, was the fact that Apple had just wrapped up its fiscal year 2012 with a record profit of $41.7 billion on $156.5 billion revenue.

    How huge these numbers really are becomes more evident when compared to the results of Apple’s competition:

    • From October 2011 through September 2012, the combined net profit of Microsoft, Google, eBay, Yahoo, Facebook and Amazon was $34.4 billion. Apple alone made $7 billion more.

    • In the same period, Dell, Asus, Intel, Acer, IBM, Lenovo and HP, i.e. virtually the entire PC industry, made $19.3 billion or less than half of Apple’s profit.

    Seeing these numbers, it is no surprise that, despite its recent dip, Apple is still the most valuable public company in the world. All its recent shortcomings notwithstanding, Apple’s business remains incredibly profitable.

    (Samsung is on the bottom in case you can't see the graphic clearly.):D
     
  3. identity macrumors 6502

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    Just because Justin Bieber sells more records than 'insert your favorite artists" doesn't mean he's the best singer.
     
  4. TacticalDesire macrumors 68020

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  5. sinsin07 macrumors 68030

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    Who is Justin Bieber. In any regard the topic is not Justin Bieber, Artitst or singing or what's best. The topic is profit.

    The subject of "best" is up to the consumer.
     
  6. BHP41 macrumors 6502a

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    Ummmm.... That statement as absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted. :rolleyes:

    Being the best smartphone is a subjective argument. Having more profits than your competitors combined is fact and can't be argued against.

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    Investors are worrying if Apples dominance is waning. I wonder if these investors actually read the reports from the cell providers and Apple themselves. :rolleyes: Wall Street is tired of apple because they haven't released something to change another industry(iPhone) or created one(iPad) in a few years. If Apple decides to do to the TV and Movie industry what it I'd to the music industry then they'll all be excited again for the next few years. Then after 5-7 years when the completion copies Apple(again) they'll say Apple is doomed. This has happened many times. Only time will tell but I wouldn't bet against them.
     
  7. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    The stock being flat or decline does not mean apple is doomed, it just that the market sees apple is a bad investment at the moment, not because they think apple will do bad it's just there really isn't more room to grow. They are already one of the most profitable companies ever, you can't expect revenue and profits to keep going up forever.
     
  8. BHP41 macrumors 6502a

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    The stock isn't flat, it's the year over year growth. Apple released 5 new products this year so in not surprised that its been a little flat with new manufacturing cost for all of these. Specifically in Q4 for the biggest piece of the pie.
     
  9. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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    The person you replied to got it wrong, it's not about the stock being flat, it's about Apple's QtoQ, Q4 '11 to Q4 '12 profits being flat, even though revenues were up by quite a margin.

    Apple barely made 400 million extra profit off billions more revenue. That is what is making investors worried. Margins were on a decline.

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    Look, old data! Why did you post this ?

    Q4 '12 data from both Samung and Apple indicate that Samsung made 8.3b$ profits to Apple's 13.1b$.

    That's a lot closer than your data and graph hint it... Maybe you should stop spreading FUD based on outdated data. :rolleyes:
     
  10. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601

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    Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked this out
     
  11. hyteckit Guest

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    Following the Apple is DOOM thread, I'll call this the Samsung is DOOM thread.

    Poor Samsung. Stocks tank after earnings report. Samsung is DOOM.

    Stock drops 36,000 won.

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  12. TheHateMachine macrumors 6502a

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    As the OP posted "Haters gonna hate".

    PS: Your data... muh sides! :D
     
  13. appletoandroid macrumors member

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    Samsung sells 63 million smartphones, dominates the market

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57565810-94/samsung-reigns-with-30-of-q4-smartphone-shipments/

    What's left for Samsung? They are absolutely crushing Apple, and I think the GS4 will be the final blow.

    But I think this is a mixed bag of goodies. They're clearly leading the industry with their innovation, but will they start to plateau because they're the best like Apple once was? What is left out there to challenge Samsung?

    Congrats on record profits and sales!
     
  14. daveathall macrumors 68000

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    No matter which way you chop it, still pretty impressive. :)
     
  15. LSUtigers03 macrumors 68020

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    That's only because they sell a million different smartphones and Apple only sells 3. They also give them away and Apple charges an bazillion dollars for theirs and they still sell a ton. Quality over quantity. :rolleyes:
     
  16. DanteMann macrumors 6502

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    Giving Away = $0 Profit.

    Please see thread.
    Reality's a hell of a drug.
     
  17. LSUtigers03 macrumors 68020

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    I figured the :rolleyes: emoticon would be enough to relay that I was being sarcastic but I guess not.
     
  18. TheHateMachine macrumors 6502a

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    With the way some of the people operate on this forum you can never tell....
     
  19. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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    Personally, the Bazillion dollars pretty much told me you weren't serious before getting to the emoticon.
     
  20. blackhand1001 macrumors 68030

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    You realize that the vast majority of their smartphone sales are made up of the s3 and the note ii. Not to mention apple still sells the iPhone 4.


    Samsungs profit increased 74 percent last quarter over the same quarter the previous year. That's a much better year over year growth than apple experienced.
     
  21. LSUtigers03 macrumors 68020

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    Yes I do realize that. In fact I own both of those phones.
     
  22. DanteMann macrumors 6502

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    :eek:
    But realty's still a helluva drug. lol
     
  23. LSUtigers03 macrumors 68020

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    Haha agreed
     
  24. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    But the company that made my phone made even more billions of dollars than the company that made your phone, so my phone better than yours!
     

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