San Jose, Ca. cop: "... God given and law appointed right and duty to kill you."

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  1. jnpy!$4g3cwk, Dec 21, 2014
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-jose-cop-phillip-white-suspended-for-twitter-threat-to-protesters/

    By all accounts, in the past this particular policeman was highly regarded as being very functional.

    I look at this as another bit of evidence that something, in general, is going on with the police in the U.S.

    There are several theories of policing, I suppose:

    I obviously made these up on the fly, but, for some reason, there does seem to be a surge in the RWA viewpoint and resulting behavior among the police. Why?
     
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    Your title is out of context. Are you trying to just stir things up?

    This was merely his thoughts on protecting his and his family's lives, something I totally agree with him
     
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    "Threaten me or my family and I will use my God given and law appointed right and duty to kill you. #CopsLivesMatter."

    Threaten me or my family and I'll give the same response. I think most people would say the same.
     
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    So if someone threatens me I can execute them on the spot and my actions will be justified? Cool! Way cool! :cool:
     
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    You left out the Social Justice Warrior Nutjobs, Al Sharpton, and the other loons (sovereign citizens).

    This is what the cop posted. Was he wrong in thinking it? Nope.

    He was stupid to post it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    STAND YOUR GROUND, BRAH! \m/:mad:

    That's the great thing about the US these days. There are no complications for anything. Even the most vaguely threatening situation can be resolved quickly and efficiently with a "**** it, shoot 'em" mindset, and no one but commies and entitled socialists will question its necessity.

    We keep the peace at the point of a gun. Don't step out of line.
     
  7. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    OK. But what about this part:

    In another, he said he would be off-duty at the movies with his gun if anyone "feels they can't breathe or their lives matter."

    Who is he threatening and why?
     
  8. webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    Stupidity, plain and simple.
     
  9. jnpy!$4g3cwk, Dec 21, 2014
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    How is it "out of context?" OBTW, I thought the officer stirred it up all by himself.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/philip-white-cop-who-threatened-protesters-duty-kill-tweet-placed-administrative-1759201

    So, what does that have to do with his supposed "God given and law appointed right and duty to kill you." ? I think you are missing the context in which in tweeted this. So, anyway, what is your theory of policing?

    I fall in the community policing camp, myself.
     
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    Self defense is not an execution.
     
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    And the best thing about it is you can claim self defense after the fact! Who's gonna say otherwise?
     
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    My family, whom I had a god given right and duty to protect, wouldn't say otherwise.
     
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    You know, I wouldn't be so bothered by the whole gun culture and self defense thing if people weren't so self righteous about it, and used it as an excuse to justify everything.

    It reminds me of something that happened around here a couple decades back. Some idiot teenagers decided to roll this woman's yard. She comes out with a rifle, screams at them to get them to run. Then, while they're about half an acre away, running farther all the while, she carefully takes aim, looks down the scope, and shoots one in the back in the head.

    Back then, everyone took it for what it was. The pointless execution of a teenager who represented no direct threat whatsoever. No one complained when she got shacked off to prison for life.

    These days, you'd have half the forum screaming "RIGHTEOUS KILL, DUDERS! SELF DEFENSE! GUN GRABBERS ARE GONNA USE THIS AS ANOTHER EXCUSE TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR FAMILIES".

    So it's not the guns that bother me. Nor the issue of self defense, which I personally believe in. It's the attitude of some people that I take issue with. And how they use self defense as an excuse for EVERY GODDAMN THING involving a gun.

    COME AT ME, BRO!
     
  14. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Sounds like he's itching for a fight. Not smart. Stupid comments.

    Sure you have the right to defend yourself and your family, but what exactly is the point of taking this to Twitter? Is he looking for a reason to but bullets in people?

    Notice his reference to his weapon.
     
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    Your title:
    San Jose, Ca. cop: "... God given and law appointed right and duty to kill you."

    You just conveniently left out the part in regards to it being about someone threatening the lives of him and his family:roll eyes:

    So yes, out of context
     
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    Of course. Because without his gun he is nothing. Just another gun worshipping coward.
     
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    Those are some tough words.
     
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    What a mess. I highly doubt that the majority view in America is that a police officer or anyone has a god given right to kill someone if they threaten his family. That's just came right out of every bad shoot 'em up movie America has ever made.

    How do you decide what is threatening enough to need to kill someone? Why is it ok for a police officer to suggest the law is above the law and you will die because they went to a police academy? Anyone on here that thinks they have a right to kill at all needs their guns taken away from them. You MIGHT have the law on your side if you take someones life due to protecting yours or someone else's. To think you have the right before the fact is just idiotic and dangerous.
     
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    So, let me make sure I have this straight. Someone simply says they are going to do something to you, you can just draw your gun, shoot them and kill them, and it's all good? Someone sends you an email claiming they will hurt you, you can go hunt them down and kill them? Wow. USA! USA!

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    Agreed 10000%

    THESE are the types of people who are "law abiding gun owners"?
     
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    I know of no civil law, God-given or otherwise, that states a duty to kill. Such a law would not only require lethal force, it would mandate a lethal outcome: a duty to kill. In short, any non-lethal outcome would be a contravention of that law.

    Lethal force can be authorized and applied without a lethal outcome. E.g. a person can be shot at or even shot (lethal force applied) while attempting escape from a sworn LEO (lethal force authorized by law), but there is no corresponding duty placed on the LEO to ensure the lethality of the applied force. That is, the LEO is not obligated to kill the escapee once lethal force has been started.

    The laws of warfare would be different.
     
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    I agree and someone will likely rise to the challenge and the bad blood will continue.
     
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    More of your blah blah blah that has nothing to do with the topic. Where did I say I protected my family with a firearm?.

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    Gee, I don't know. Maybe he and/or his family was threatened on twitter?

    Warning someone who is threatening you that you have a weapon is reasonable and should quickly defuse the situation.
     
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    Garbage. If someone is threatening you, you report it. A police officer surely knows this. A 20 year veteran definitely does. There is no right to kill or threaten with a gun.
     
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    Who said he didn't? You're making an assumption with no facts.
     
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    I think you're conveniently overlooking the point. He declared his 'right' to kill based on a threat. He has a right to report the incident, that's where it ends. No right to kill someone and no right to threaten in retaliaton. He doesn't live in a Mad Max movie.
     

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