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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by jkcerda, Oct 24, 2015.
well, so much for Bernie.
It's better than the alternatives.
depends on your perspective, I was willing to gamble more restrictions on the 2nd if there was a chance to end the wars if he was elected, but not anymore.
You should look to see who the Quakers endorse.
what did you say about being "pragmatic" in another thread?
I have no idea what that means.
Could you please clarify?
sure, see below.
see post 3. time to be "pragmatic". if I am going to get war, no matter who I vote for then might as well vote someone who supports my rights, like the 2nd.
I would never suggest anybody judge a candidate on a single issue.
I'm happy you're adopting a multi-policy system for assessing candidates.
What choice does Bernie have, he wins the election becomes president after saying, nope I don't support it. Does he just pull everyone out day 1? I don't think he would be able too. So saying he supports it and he agrees with it are 2 different things.
He might not want to stay there but I don't think he can just reverse course so easily from the current administration.
Well, here's a new counterargument for the accusation that he's too far to the left.
As long as the next POTUS doesn't make it a habit to start new wars with Iran, Russia, Shia Iraq, Syria, Some-small-useless-LatinAmerican-republic, then it really doesn't bother me if the US leaves a handful of troops in Afghanistan for another year or so.
Ideally I'd like to bring those troops home, in favor of redeploying troops to friendly US-Pacific allies in the Far Western Hawaiian Sea (aka the South China Sea).
He's probably deciding that he wants a chance at competing with Hillary so is now trying to show that he can compromise with the establishment. That is great if he can compromise, but hopefully it extends to more than just keeping our soldiers stuck in a pointless war.
Everytime the US troops leave a place the CIA starts a new terror group (e.g. AlQuaida, ISIS, ...) then they have another reason to keep their perpetual wars going.
The problem is not what the potus does, but what the Gestapos do.