Sanders, which party is he hijacking? A bloom by any other name in the same garden?

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The DNC and Clinton camps both say Sanders is hijacking his party and shouldn't be running in it. Which is technically not incorrect since he himself, despite the technical name "Democratic Socialist" (think FDR or even Eisenhower, certainly not Marx), is - as I understand it to be - registered as "Independent".

What's funny is that the same logic could be used - would he not seemed to have "hijacked" the Independent party despite being in a party that would otherwise surely be in the scope and under the umbrella banner of "Democratic Party"?
 

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The Clinton's hijacked the Democratic Party in the early 90s and turned it into a center-right corporate circle jerk.

Bernie and his supporters are simply trying to move the party back to its progressive roots ala FDR and LBJ.
 

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The anti-war Democrats pretty much went away once Obama decided to keep the wars going and to start new ones.
it was a sad day, although I am not sure they "went away", not the ones with back bones anyways, the media simply decided to stop giving them air time in order to keep Obama happy.
 
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Sanders has been caucusing with Democrats in the Senate for years. They have been able to rely on him for vote support in things they wanted to pass for a very long time. Sanders has been, essentially, an unofficial member of the party for as long as he has been there. This is is a cheap, desperate smear against Sanders by Hillary Clinton.
 
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Sanders has been caucusing with Democrats in the Senate for years. They have been able to rely on him for vote support in things they wanted to pass for a very long time. Sanders has been, essentially, an unofficial member of the party for as long as he has been there. This is is a cheap, desperate smear against Sanders by Hillary Clinton.
Hillary sucks, just not as hard as monica did. she does not belong in the WH.
 
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Hillary sucks, just not as hard as monica did. she does not belong in the WH.
She is the least worst candidate of any on the Republican side. That's how terrible they all are. The most disgraceful set of clowns I have ever seen run.

And as bad as she is - if Sanders does not win the nomination, I will be voting for Clinton.
 
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She is the least worst candidate of any on the Republican side. That's how terrible they all are. The most disgraceful set of clowns I have ever seen run.

And as bad as she is - if Sanders does not win the nomination, I will be voting for Clinton.
you had my upvote till you went all pragmatic & decided to vote Clinton.:mad:.
guessing Pedro gets my vote this election
 
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you had my upvote till you went all pragmatic & decided to vote Clinton.:mad:.
guessing Pedro gets my vote this election
I'm just voting to legalize marijuana then at least I can get stoned and not give a **** about which walking poster child for lobotomies ends up in the White House. :D
 

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I'm just voting to legalize marijuana then at least I can get stoned and not give a **** about which walking poster child for lobotomies ends up in the White House. :D
I want to legalize so we can end the never ending screwing of people who go to jail over stupid pot, it's your body have at it JUST DON'T screw with other people while you are high.
 

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The DNC and Clinton camps both say Sanders is hijacking his party and shouldn't be running in it. Which is technically not incorrect since he himself, despite the technical name "Democratic Socialist" (think FDR or even Eisenhower, certainly not Marx), is - as I understand it to be - registered as "Independent".

What's funny is that the same logic could be used - would he not seemed to have "hijacked" the Independent party despite being in a party that would otherwise surely be in the scope and under the umbrella banner of "Democratic Party"?
He's been in the Democratic Party officially for over a year now.
 
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Sanders has been caucusing with Democrats in the Senate for years. They have been able to rely on him for vote support in things they wanted to pass for a very long time. Sanders has been, essentially, an unofficial member of the party for as long as he has been there. This is is a cheap, desperate smear against Sanders by Hillary Clinton.
Not really. He is running as an outsider and isn't really supporting the down ballot tickets within the party. He's made disparaging comments about Obama or the party. I feel the exact same way Hillary does and I'm not running for office. It's not a smear. It's just the reality of the situation.
 

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Not really. He is running as an outsider and isn't really supporting the down ballot tickets within the party. He's made disparaging comments about Obama or the party. I feel the exact same way Hillary does and I'm not running for office. It's not a smear. It's just the reality of the situation.
The democrats deserve the criticism. They aren't saints and blindly towing the party line that they are is one of the main problems with the process in this country.
 

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The democrats deserve the criticism. They aren't saints and blindly towing the party line that they are is one of the main problems with the process in this country.
Why wouldn't a party tow the party line? Think of it this way: Much like a country, a party exist to support and protect it's ideals and values from foreign invaders. We wouldn't want Canada or China invading and telling us how to do things. So why would anyone want an outsider attempting to take over a party through a "revolution"? You shouldn't want that anymore than you would want another country to invade. If someone has alternative ideas that do not fit into either of the existing main parties...great! Form your own party and make your case. But don't glom onto the coat tails of another party and try to carpetbag your way into the White House.
 

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What cult are you more afraid of, the Bernie cult the Clinton cult or the Trump cult?
I think the Bernie Cult is the most dangerous. And this is coming from a Black male, New Yorker.

I will be voting for Hillary just based on the fact that I don't waste votes, and I rather keep some normalcy instead of an extreme left or extreme right.

IMO ... The whole Bernie or burst motto is completely stupid. Bernie supporters are saying if Bernie doesn't win they are not going to vote at all or will vote for Trump(which is the complete opposite of Bernie). Makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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I think the Bernie Cult is the most dangerous. And this is coming from a Black male, New Yorker.

I will be voting for Hillary just based on the fact that I don't waste votes, and I rather keep some normalcy instead of an extreme left or extreme right.

IMO ... The whole Bernie or burst motto is completely stupid. Bernie supporters are saying if Bernie doesn't win they are not going to vote at all or will vote for Trump(which is the complete opposite of Bernie). Makes no sense whatsoever.

It makes complete sense. Both Trump and Sanders have been railing against govt for special interest only and not for the people. Both Trump and Sanders are railing against the globalist corporation take over of the USA with the TPP trade trojan horse - Both Trump and Sanders railed against NAFTA, both Trump and Sanders pushing for jobs in the USA.

Trump is against intervention wars and coups. Where they differ is the economics of socialism.

Why anyone who professes to be "liberal" would ever vote for the war monger, coup queen Hillary who thinks she is above the law - under FBI investigation under the espionage act, with her 82 corporations and banks backing her is definitely drinking the koolaid.
 
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