Santa Barbara/Isla Vista Killings

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  1. bmt134, May 25, 2014
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    It is absolutely horrific. Condolences to the families of those involved. I really don't know what else could be said :(
     
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    How about a congrats to the NRA? They seem to have gotten their way. I support a full repeal of the second amendment.
     
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    Let's be realistic. Incidents like this are the American version of suicide bombers. You'll never prevent someone intent on causing harm if they're willing to give up their own life to do it.
     
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    What a narcissistic self entitled little creep. :eek:
     
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    The fact that he used a handgun is sad, but expected. But this isn't really a story about the NRA or gun control. He, apparently, bought the gun legally and as he hadn't a criminal record or documented mental health issues - there isn't really any way he could have been prevented.

    What IS disturbing is this guy's history as part of the PickUP Artist seminar scene. - and his subsequent entering an anti-PickUp artist community.

    I'm just old enough not to have really been aware that this was a thing. That young men really would go to the trouble and expense of receiving formalized training in how approach and lure young women into meaningless - and apparently affection-free - sexual encounters.

    What a sad, sad commentary on modern life. I knew young men could be jerks (I've been a jerkish young man myself) But never anything like this. I feel very sorry for any woman who has been the victim of the sort of predatory and objectifying behavior.
     
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    According to the LA Times he kill three victims with a knife. Do you want a ban on all knifes and other sharp objects as well?

    Stop trying to put the blame on someone else.
     
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    This guy was just a whacko. Politics had nothing to do with what he did.
     
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    While I agree this doesn't really relate to one side of the political divide or the other, I don't think it's right to just call him a "whacko" either. People like this are not born, but rather made; They are a product of a sequence of unfortunate life events combined with intense social pressures.
     
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    Sorry but no. There's definitely a social factor, but with many conditions, they were born like this.
     
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    According to the killer, the cops almost were able to foil the attack.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-santa-barbara-shooting-20140525,0,3057353.story

    I applaud his parents for reporting their son to the police. It is a shame that he was able to b******t the police.
     
  12. APlotdevice, May 25, 2014
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    Genetic factors can influence behavior, but they do NOT by any means determine it. Don't think for second that your conception was somehow different from his.
     
  13. bmt134 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I read somewhere his parents placed him under therapy after discovering a few of his videos. Not sure how he passed these checks with documented mental health issues.
     
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    From his manifesto, he claims to have purchased the handguns in December.

    From his comments on Bodybuilding.com, his parents didn't discover the videos until March or April of this year.
     
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    These type of people are very capable of simply lying and getting away with it.

    Emotionless. Irregardless of his manifesto just watch his video. He was a sociopath.
     
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    What an absolute *******. This guy deserved death.
     
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    He deserved to rot in jail. Not take the easy way out after taking 6.
     
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    Yes actually. He got lucky he killed himself.
     
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    However heinous his acts were I can't help but feel sorry for him. Yes he was a self-entitled little ****, but he obviously had severe mental problems as a child and after reading snippets from his diary, it appears his parents ignored them. He was prescribed anti-psychotics as a young adult but he refused to take them. Police even came to his house and he "tactfully" ensured them that his videos on YouTube were a misunderstanding and that "had they searched" his room, none of this would have happened.

    This is a failure of parenting, mental health specialists, law enforcement and this young man.
     
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    It's terrible. But at this point I think there needs to be some research as to why mental illness is so prevalent in today's world when it did not seem to be this way in years past.
     
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    This is in fact one of the things they study in the field of Psychological Anthropology.
     
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    I can't say that, but I acknowledge the NRA's full court press on deregulating gun sales and ownership and by this action, their attitude is that the cost in human life is well worth the joy of gun ownership and for pushing the crass, idiotic slogan "guns don't kill people, people kill people". It disgusts me.
     
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    Honestly I didn't used to feel that way. This is a pretty new opinion I've developed. I think it's just becoming obvious now that the second amendment isn't worth the sacrifice that it's caused. And much of it has to do with the NRA and their callousness.
     
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    How is it explained that we are virtually the only major country with this gun problem?
     

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