Santorum robocalls Democrats; Romney complains

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  1. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    Romney also said that what Santorum was doing reminded him of other recent dirty political tricks. I think the reason FoxNews omits that part of the objection is that the recent dirty tricks he is referring to were being done by the GOP during the Obama/Clinton primary only a short 4 years ago.

    Oh, on a side note, there is a poll on FoxNews right now about whether President Obama is trying to get everyone educated by liberal elitists. I voted, and the current results are:

    I voted yes because it seemed like such a ludicrous answer, and it turns out I was in the FoxNews majority! :D
     
  2. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    I'm surprised that Michigan has an open primary. Since the purpose of a primary is to pick a party's candidate then only members of that particular party should be allowed to vote.
     
  3. mcrain thread starter macrumors 68000

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    So, all the independents don't get a say in who the next president will be? Are you suggesting that straight party affiliation is a good thing, because the GOP worked like crazy to end that practice.

    Personally, I'd like to see all primaries be open to everyone, even unregistered voters, minors, aliens and anyone else who wants to vote. You'd get better candidates than those selected by the whack-a-doodles on the far-far-far-far right keep picking.
     
  4. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Yes, letting my 11 year old son vote would lead to better candidates.:rolleyes:

    They get their say in the general election. Allowing non-party members a voice in picking a party's candidate is like the Yankees allowing the Red Sox to choose the Yankees draft choices.
     
  5. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Given the current Republican field, could he possibly do worse? :p
     
  6. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Well he is pretty smart!:cool:
     
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    Missouri's primary is open too, I was going to vote for either Newt or Frothy in the GOP primary until they decided our primary would be meaningless.

    I don't have an issue with open primaries. In Missouri, you don't even register with a party when you register to vote so there's no way they'd be able to restrict it. And if there's ever a time when republicans aren't completely *******e insane, perhaps there will be some independent, moderate voters who want to vote for one of them to become the nominee.
     
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    Primaries are private elections held by the parties. They should be restricted to the party members.
     
  9. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Open primaries are retarded. Each opposition party will obviously vote the worst candidate in for the other team.
     
  10. yg17 macrumors G5

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    In Missouri the taxpayers foot the bill for primaries. If I'm paying for it, I should be allowed to vote in the damn thing.

    Funny enough, no one in the GOP was whining about the estimated 7 million dollars that was spent on a primary that awards no delegates. Talk about wasteful spending. Hypocrites.
     
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    I am going to laugh if Santorum beats Romney in MI.

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    So I suppose you think Republicans should be able to vote in the democrat primaries too? I'd be happy to vote for a more conservative democrat for you in the primary, then vote for the republican in the actual election.
     
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    I'd vote santorum if he'd robocop democrats.

    HALT. PRESENT SANTORUM. YOU HAVE THREE SECONDS TO COMPLY.
     
  13. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Why not? In 2008 Rush Limbaugh led an effort to encourage Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton (dubbed Operation Chaos) because she was perceived as less electable. Despite being an Obama supporter from the start, I didn't have a problem with it. Perhaps if they concentrated on their own primary in 2008 instead of the Democratic primary, they would've nominated a candidate who wasn't considered a moderate and would've won over the *******e wing of the GOP and had a slightly better chance of winning.

    You vote in the other party's primary at your own peril.
     
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    Yeah I know, and that blew up in his face. It's crazy either way it goes.
     
  15. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Gee, another Santorum thread. When do we get that permanent Santorum sticky? ;)

    Yeah, because Santorum's counting on Democrats turning out for him. No other motive. :rolleyes:

    I think Romney and I can agree there.

    Hard-working Democrats wouldn't be caught dead voting for Santorum, not even to game the primary.

    (Bookmarks the above for the next time someone tries to tell us that Fox or its viewers have any credibility.)
     
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    Pardon the consecutive posts, but....really??

    (shrugs) I should be surprised that Romney is such a hypocrite?
     
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    ah that is cute. You think we get a choice in the general election. Look at how badly rig the districts are set up to select one part or the other. Only a small handful are really competitive.

    The only time our vote has any say is in the primaries.

    In the presidentational electoin for example most states we already know the out come of who is going to win. For example Texas will be voting GOP no matter what for president. My vote really is not going to change that at all. The only time I would get any say is in the primary. For say congress in most states you can tell the winner for all but a handful districts and yet again the only time you get any say is in the primaries.


    Now I personally go with the system of you go to the primary and the day of you can choose one party or the other but I would not have to be a registered member of the party before hand. I can "registered" the day of the primary.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of two primaries with candidates registered in the party, where anyone can vote regardless of registration, age, or citizenship. Pit those two against each other, and my guess is we would have very different types of people running for office.

    Especially if you take the corporate money out.
     
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    I don't know what the data suggests, but I do know a number of people who vote in the opposition primaries but do it in good faith - voting for the opposition candidate they think is the best (or least worst) alternative should their own party lose the elections. It may be a useless gesture but it is at least done with honest intentions.
     
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    Personally, I'd prefer we do the opposite. People clearly aren't qualified to elect the President and VP. Let's hand the election back to an Electoral College of nonpartisan academics chosen by state legislatures.

    Then we don't need a primary at all. :)
     
  22. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    According to many Republicans, there is no such animal. Academics are elitist, liberal snobs. Education beyond high school level is the path to socialism. Except for colleges with a Christian or conservative slant, or a conservative think tank. Those are OK.
     
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    Turn American Idol into the presidential election, every week we vote from 12 Democrats and 12 Republicans that have to audition to get on the ballot. We then vote out 1 every week until we find the top 4. Every vote costs 50 cents a call and that money goes to pay down the national debt.
     
  24. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    How is that different than what we currently do?

    :D
     
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    More people vote for american idol than they do for president.
     

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