Sarah Pallin joins the "birther nutcases"


scottness

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I'm not convinced she's joining the birthers since she's not demanding it. Interesting that she commented the way she did, though.
 

CaptMurdock

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She's playing both sides: she wants to pander to the birthers yet still wants to keep her options open to the moderates.

We're going to go over this again: the birth certificate has been shown. It's been certified. This is a dead issue. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a certifiable nutcase. End of story.
 

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She's playing both sides: she wants to pander to the birthers yet still wants to keep her options open to the moderates.

We're going to go over this again: the birth certificate has been shown. It's been certified. This is a dead issue. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a certifiable nutcase. End of story.
I've known certifiable nutcases that aren't that crazy.
 

scottness

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She's playing both sides: she wants to pander to the birthers yet still wants to keep her options open to the moderates.

We're going to go over this again: the birth certificate has been shown. It's been certified. This is a dead issue. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a certifiable nutcase. End of story.
Apparently it wasn't shown to the birthers. I'd actually like to see it to see what the birthers are fuming about. More transparency would shut the nutcases up.
 

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She also criticized her own presidential campaign for not asking enough questions about Obama.

"The McCain-Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area," the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate said. "We didn't call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were and perhaps what some of their future plans were and I don't think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates.
Was she in the same election we saw? they didn't call him out? :eek:

Oooook. :rolleyes:
 

Rt&Dzine

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Reading her quotes in the linked article, she sure plays the victim game. And she is very passive-aggressive.
 

rdowns

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The birthers are just part of her core constituency of resentful, white middle-American doofuses.
 

Rampant.A.I.

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Because everyone who questions Obama is a racist?
No, but there are definite racist undertones to the question of his citizenship. If he were white, would the same question have persisted this long in the minds of this many whack-a-loons? Probably, but wouldn't have made the news.

Would the allegations that he's a "closet Muslim" have continued?

I don't know. I wonder.

It just shows you how "separate" church and state are in this country. You can practice any religion you like, it's part of the freedom our founding fathers fought for!

...Unless you want to hold any major public office. Then you better be Christian, and vocal about it, or else.
 

scottness

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No, but there are definite racist undertones to the question of his citizenship. If he were white, would the same question have persisted this long in the minds of this many whack-a-loons? Probably, but wouldn't have made the news.

Would the allegations that he's a "closet Muslim" have continued?

I don't know. I wonder.

It just shows you how "separate" church and state are in this country. You can practice any religion you like, it's part of the freedom our founding fathers fought for!

...Unless you want to hold any major public office. Then you better be Christian, and vocal about it, or else.
So... there are no black people questioning his citizenship, then? My question was on racism, had nothing to do with religion.
 

Rampant.A.I.

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So... there are no black people questioning his citizenship, then? My question was on racism, had nothing to do with religion.
Being black doesn't automatically make you exempt from being a racist against other black people.

I strongly believe that if president Obama were WASP-y white, the question of his citizenship (sic) would have been scoffed off as a bad joke a year ago. Not that it isn't by just about everyone with half a brain, but it wouldn't continue to show up in the news.

The question of his religion was brought up as a paralle. If he were white, few people would continue to believe he's a Muslim masquerading as a Christian.
 

Rampant.A.I.

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So you do not believe that people of the same skin color can have pre-conceived ideas about each other based on the color of their skin? :confused:
 

jb1280

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Anyone who believes this is a legitimate question is delusional and absolutely crazy, period.

It would be unfair for anyone to suggest that every "birther" is a racist. It's dishonest, however, to say that at the very least there isn't a strong racial, ethnocentric current through the movement at large. If you replace a man of mixed race named Barack Hussein Obama with a white guy named Jack David Smith, I doubt this would be an issue.
 

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So you disagree with the dictionary definition of "Racism," and do not believe that people of the same skin color can have pre-conceived ideas about each other based on the color of their skin? :confused:

Why would I have a disagreement with a dictionary? That's just presumptuous silliness.

I'm not denying people can be racist against themselves, I just don't find it a compelling enough reason to agree with you on your point. I find it trivial and tiresome. Give me some meat; something I can chew on for a while.
 

scottness

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Anyone who believes this is a legitimate question is delusional and absolutely crazy, period.

It would be unfair for anyone to suggest that every "birther" is a racist. It's dishonest, however, to say that at the very least there isn't a strong racial, ethnocentric current through the movement at large. If you replace a man of mixed race named Barack Hussein Obama with a white guy named Jack David Smith, I doubt this would be an issue.
I think it a completely legitimate question, provided you're delusional and crazy, of course. :D

I would question anyone's birth certificate who had a funky history. Like John Phillip Walker's.
 

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It would be unfair for anyone to suggest that every "birther" is a racist. It's dishonest, however, to say that at the very least there isn't a strong racial, ethnocentric current through the movement at large. If you replace a man of mixed race named Barack Hussein Obama with a white guy named Jack David Smith, I doubt this would be an issue.
Since when is questioning the accuracy of documents something to be condemned? You would only do that if - indeed - there was something to hide. Oh yeah... guy named Lucas Smith of Cedar Rapids, Iowa offered a copy of something you should investigate...
 

jb1280

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For Pat "black helicopter tin foil hat" Buchanan to say the Birthers are bogus demonstrates just how crazy and delusional such people are.