Scott Forstall and legend of iOS 6 and teasing video

Discussion in 'iOS 7' started by mohammed-eg, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. mohammed-eg macrumors member

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  2. Armen macrumors 604

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    iOS 6 event was pathetic. All they did was introduce Maps and passbook. Passbook is hardly used and Maps took over a year to correct.

    I'm sure Scott is enjoying his millions.
     
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    I hardly use Maps but use passbook weekly for my flight boarding passes.
     
  4. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    Yeah, Passbook is definitely not for everyone at this point in time, although I acknowledge that it is and will be very useful once / if it becomes more widespread.
     
  5. Altis macrumors 68010

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    Scott Forstall wasn't all bad. He did help create an incredibly successful mobile platform.

    iOS 6 did bring some well warranted advancements in usability, as well as privacy features. At least it didn't require having to relearn muscle memory to slow yourself down because of all the massive delays everywhere. ;)

    Sure people will complain about some green felt in the Game Center, but Mr. Ive is all for iOS devices looking like a CRT television when they turn off... :rolleyes:
     
  6. JobsGang macrumors regular

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    Ios 6 was a disappointment.ios 7 is light years better.I mean we had to wait this long for control center?Forstall had to go.He was holding the OS back.
     
  7. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Why/how was it a disappointment? That it wasn't a redesign or that it actually made things horrible and bad and even worse than before?
     
  8. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    The removal of stock YouTube and Maps (iOS 5) upset many people. They also complained that is was stale. Many also think iOS 7 was too extreme of a reaction.
     
  9. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    The removal of those apps was going to come with or without iOS 6 realistically speaking so that's not really iOS 6 specific even though it happened at the same time basically.
     
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    i use passbook for starbucks but the entire list of passbook supported apps after a year is still a handful. its basically not been widely adopted by developers.
     
  11. gaanee macrumors 6502a

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    Its also possible that Jobs preferred skeuomorphism and Forestall was simply incharge of carrying out his instructions... it got the approval from Jobs.
    It's unfair to blame one person based on old videos.. I am sure even Win 3.1 and 98 were considered revolutionary at that time, but if you compare to today's OS, now it looks rudimentary.
    Initially I didn't upgrade because ios7 looked like splashing too much color but after using it for a day, I wondered what were they thinking before while putting felt and linen background. Guess that's how new designs evolve.
     
  12. JobsGang macrumors regular

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    It didn't make things worse.I just think they were being too conservative.ios 6 was still a great OS.
     
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    O please! It wasn't just the game centre (which I have hardly used) but his skeuomorphism gone bad was all over the place! I was ready to move to a different OS had they not made the changes they did.
     
  14. merrickdrfc macrumors 6502

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    Looking back now, having used iOS 7 for a good almost 8 months, iOS 6 seems as archaic as OS 9 vs OS X. Quite strange really, the classic design was with us for 6 years and I never realised how dated it looked until I got my hands on iOS 7.
     
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    I sometimes wonder what iOS 7 would have been like if Scott was still around.
     
  16. BvizioN macrumors 68040

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    That's very easy to answer! Same as the previous 6 versions.
     
  17. numlock macrumors 68000

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    this rewriting of history and blaming everything on forstall is amazing. smacks of insecurity

    the shredder animation was dreadful but parallax serves as much purpose.

    im sure forstall was smart enough and notice that windows and google and others were going for a flatter look, copy that and being dead last on that merry go round
     
  18. Reason077 macrumors 68000

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    Huh? The maps he is demonstrating look awful. Apple Maps is one thing that has improved the most since the iOS 6 introduction. They look so much better in iOS 7.

    And those old iOS 6 gradient navigation bars just look so old fashioned. They dominate the screen and distract from the content.
     
  19. Altis macrumors 68010

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    And what of the parallax effect? It is actually very tricky because it goes against what you would expect to see from the "layers". If anything, the icons should move in the opposite direction (towards the edge that remains closer to you) to maintain perspective. In other words, having the icons move to the right when you tilt your phone to the right is backwards... If they moved left, they would appear to remain in line with the background.

    Anyways, say what you will of Forstall. At least his notifications didn't go on a huge spiel about the weather without telling you the temperature, or going on about your events without telling you anything about them ;)

    If it weren't for his thoughts and designs, iOS might not have caught on as well as it did.
     
  20. BvizioN macrumors 68040

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    Parallax effect could be a gimmick, I agree. I don't mind it but I realise there is many people who dislike it and guess what? There is 1 option to disable it. With previous iOS versions I had no option to disable the leather stitching madness.

    Anyways, I do appreciate what he have done for iOS, I really do. I was just getting tired of the skeuomorphism stuff on the last few years. It did make a lot of sense on the first few versions as multitouch was something new for people. But time for a change on iOS had arrived and passed while ago.
     
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    And you think that then next 6 won't be just like iOS 7? Get a grip.
     
  22. mohammed-eg thread starter macrumors member

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    i mean the interface design not the internal data
     
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    You mean the fallowing 6 versions of future iOS? Perhaps they will! iOS7 style is the new direction Apple is heading with it's iOS and I personally like it.
     
  24. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    If you look carefully, iOS 6 suggests a redesign in a way similar to Mavericks, some things were toned down and removed. I think there may have been a redesign on the way anyway. Like the dialer. The iOS 6 weather app uses a font closer to iOS 7 than the previous one.[​IMG]

    It's questionable that Forstall would have keep the design the same.
     
  25. Merkie macrumors 68020

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    The pass delete animation is a perfect example. Awful.
     

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