Scott Walker Wants To Fight Feds Over Welfare Drug Tests

steve knight

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what is the saying? the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The sad part is the voters want this (well till they have to pay for it) Because conservatives think everyone on welfare's a bum and a drug addicted baby making lazy worthless human.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/scott-walker-welfare-drug_n_5822552.html
WASHINGTON -- Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) has come out in favor of making poor people prove they're not on drugs if they want food stamps or unemployment insurance -- even if it means a showdown with the federal government.

Walker's drug test pitch comes as the Wisconsin Republican is in a close campaign for re-election against Democrat Mary Burke. National polls consistently show that requiring welfare recipients to prove they're not on drugs is an overwhelmingly popular idea.

Popular as it is, federal law doesn't allow states to require drug tests for food stamps or unemployment insurance. (States have more leeway to test beneficiaries of the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.) Walker told the Journal Sentinel that he would welcome a fight with the feds.

"We believe that there will potentially be a fight with the federal government and in court," Walker told the paper on Sunday. A Burke spokesman derided Walker's idea as a campaign stunt, the Journal Sentinel reported.
 

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I highly doubt this would be effective at anything other than wasting money. If we want to be drug testing people lets do it to our elected officials and see if any of them can pass one.
 

steve knight

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I highly doubt this would be effective at anything other than wasting money. If we want to be drug testing people lets do it to our elected officials and see if any of them can pass one.
yep they are on the public dole.
 

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I highly doubt this would be effective at anything other than wasting money. If we want to be drug testing people lets do it to our elected officials and see if any of them can pass one.

Truth! That's been proven in other states already. Republicans (and Democrats) love wasting taxpayer money as long as it plays to their base.
 

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Before anyone here says they support Walker, let's not forget Florida's welfare drug testing fail:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?ref=us

From July through October in Florida — the four months when testing took place before Judge Scriven’s order — 2.6 percent of the state’s cash assistance applicants failed the drug test, or 108 of 4,086, according to the figures from the state obtained by the group. The most common reason was marijuana use. An additional 40 people canceled the tests without taking them.

Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.

As a result, the testing cost the government an extra $45,780, he said.
 

localoid

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Unless you live in Colorado where the marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally. Got to love it.
A recent Snopes article says otherwise...

Much of what we deal with in responding to reader mail here at snopes.com is cases in which people don't read things carefully, or don't understand what they're reading, and instead scan an article and interpret it to mean something they're already inclined to believe, even if the article says exactly the opposite. The issue of whether one can use food stamps to purchase marijuana is such a case.

... you can't walk into a marijuana dispensary and buy pot by charging your purchase to an EBT card loaded with SNAP benefits, nor can you use that card to withdraw cash (from anywhere) to spend for that purpose.
 

localoid

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I know you love to try and prove me wrong but I did not say that you could use SNAP benefits to purchase weed. Didn't mention food stamps either.
You said: "Unless you live in Colorado where the marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally."

Try reading the linked Snopes article again and maybe the fact that "marijuana dealers" can't accept EBT cards to purchase pot will sink in, e.g., "people using ATMs situated in marijuana shops to withdraw cash against their EBT cards, then using that cash to purchase pot" =/= "marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally".
 

Southern Dad

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You said: "Unless you live in Colorado where the marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally."

Try reading the linked Snopes article again and maybe the fact that "marijuana dealers" can't accept EBT cards to purchase pot will sink in, e.g., "people using ATMs situated in marijuana shops to withdraw cash against their EBT cards, then using that cash to purchase pot" =/= "marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally".
Yes, my statement is exactly correct. You can use your EBT card to purchase marijuana in Colorado. Your Snopes link only says that you cannot use SNAP benefits which is true. But you can use your EBT card. Now, I don't expect you to believe me or even admit that I'm right but I'll throw a few links in for you, any way. I think that Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell may know about this.

Recreational pot: Processors of credit, debit cards relax rules - Denver Post

 

localoid

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Yes, my statement is exactly correct. You can use your EBT card to purchase marijuana in Colorado. Your Snopes link only says that you cannot use SNAP benefits which is true. But you can use your EBT card. Now, I don't expect you to believe me or even admit that I'm right but I'll throw a few links in for you, any way. I think that Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell may know about this.
You seem to be reading the Snopes article and either (1) ignoring everything that disagrees with your belief or (2) you're trying desperately to move the goal posts.

One more time:

"people using ATMs situated in marijuana shops to withdraw cash against their EBT cards, then using that cash to purchase pot" =/= "marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally"

Again, you claimed ""marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally", but the articles you posted don't support that claim.

The Denver Post doesn't mention "EBT" cards (at all). The CBS article is about people using ATM machines located inside dispensaries to withdraw cash. The USA Today article is about dispensaries accepting "Visa and MasterCard". The other articles reference the National Review article which was about people using ATM machines located inside dispensaries to withdraw cash.
 

Carlanga

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I don't see an issue in testing welfare, politicians and anyone else that gets their money from all of us.
 

Southern Dad

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You seem to be reading the Snopes article and either (1) ignoring everything that disagrees with your belief or (2) you're trying desperately to move the goal posts.

One more time:

"people using ATMs situated in marijuana shops to withdraw cash against their EBT cards, then using that cash to purchase pot" =/= "marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally"

Again, you claimed ""marijuana dealers can and do accept EBT legally", but the articles you posted don't support that claim.

The Denver Post doesn't mention "EBT" cards (at all). The CBS article is about people using ATM machines located inside dispensaries to withdraw cash. The USA Today article is about dispensaries accepting "Visa and MasterCard". The other articles reference the National Review article which was about people using ATM machines located inside dispensaries to withdraw cash.
EBT cards can be used in any ATM machine or anywhere that debit transactions are allowed.
 

steve knight

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I don't see an issue in testing welfare, politicians and anyone else that gets their money from all of us.
well you better want to test corporations since they rake in far more money from us. if you make 150,000 a year you pay about 47.00 to welfare programs. but you pay almost 500.00 to corporate welfare. you think it it is worth worrying how 47.00 of your taxes are spent?