What I am looking for are tips fro people that pre-order iPhone 4S last year and have any tips on how get the pre-order in before they sell out. Last time I remember the pre-order started before midnight. And I almost got iphone in cart and then failed right after midnight. Then I tried for a few hours without getting any further then entry screen for iphone and got error or didn't load. I gave up and then woke up around 6am in the morning and not as much people were online and order went through. I trying both the ATT and Apple website. I found the Apple website to be better. I have 6 to 8 windows open at once trying get the order through. ok so far we have... 1) try before the 3am window eastern or Midnight PST, I say 2:45or 11:45?? Start checking online Apple Store and carrier websites before the scheduled time. Sometimes the pre-order systems become accessible slightly early. Launch day pre-order inventory WILL SOLD OUT due to high demand. 2) if that doesn't work try again in 5am-7am window when first rush over and second isn't wake yet. 3) Make sure apple ID is active for express checkout To speed up online Apple Store iPhone pre-order, open an iTunes account (if you don’t have one already) and attach a credit card to it. 4) Generally Apple.com site was faster then ATT or Verizon site, so better chances Apple.com.. (more servers?) 5) http://store.apple.com/xc/iphone_eligibility These some of the problems last time.. http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/apple-now-accepting-pre-orders-for-iphone-4s/ Apple URL ordering.. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom.../family/iphone My plan.. Well from looking back at old thread.. I think if you can't get order in within first 30 mins of 2:45am.. I say punt, goto sleep and then try again at 5am.. That gives 2 hrs after start of the release, by then it is 2am on West coast (most asleep) and still pretty early on east coast (5am), so I would think if there was ever a shot to get the preorder in (granted the site is up and validation is working w/Verizon, ATT, ect). This would be the time. But pounding the pavement at 3-5am doesn't make sense in my book. What else??