Seem like Apple want us to buy a HP workstation rather than a Mac Pro

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Amethyst, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. Amethyst macrumors 6502

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    go to hp workstation we will got

    1 Harpertown Xeons
    2 Stoakley Seaburg Mother board
    3 128 GB Ram Support
    4 a new graphics card
    5 wireless option

    we will get all expect
    apple logo at side of a new system

    ps. sorry for another useful theads , sorry mr mods , sorry everybody
     
  2. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Except the HP cannot run OS X.
    Even the most powerful computer in the world is worthless to some people if the OS is crap.
     
  3. trancepriest macrumors 6502

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    I really don't see why all that matters so much. If you buy a Mac Pro now it costs $1400 for 8GB of RAM... so that would be $5600 for 32GB of RAM. You can upgrade the video card later. There is also a wireless option. Are you going to pay $22,400 for 128GB of RAM?
     
  4. Pressure macrumors 68040

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    Isn't it shipping in December or January?

    Patience...
     
  5. Squonk macrumors 65816

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    Yep. Just because :apple: has not announced does not mean that a new MacPro won't be the first to ship!
     
  6. RichP macrumors 68000

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    And that sums it all up. If we still ran PowerPC, these stupid "The Pro machine is behind the times" threads wouldn't exist.

    If you have been waiting since spring to buy a MacPro, you didn't need one to begin with.
     
  7. benpatient macrumors 68000

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    (waiting since spring to buy a mac pro to replace my dual G5)

    People in North Korea think they live in the best country in the world even though they regularly have to step around people who have died of starvation in the middle of a city street. The "b-b-b-but PPC≠x86" veil has been lifted, and what a surprise, Apple hasn't stepped up to the plate.

    I can't wait until someone in china or taiwan or somewhere gets their hands on the boot chip that keeps PCs from running OS X natively and reverse engineers it, develops a PCIe or USB version, and starts selling it on the import boards where you can get xbox mod chips and japanese versions of playstation2 games.

    Maybe then Apple won't be able to get away with not updating their BTO options to reflect the industry changes in the last 18 months...

    Looks like another few months of waiting in store for us...they'll probably put out another iphone and a few more ipods first, though.
     
  8. ke2000 macrumors member

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    He didn't mention the OS X. I kinda have sense he is buying either one for gaming than OS X itself.
     
  9. trancepriest macrumors 6502

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    That's right. If you need a Mac Pro for higher productivity why would you be waiting for almost an entire year?
     
  10. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Maybe he should point that out then.:)
     
  11. candan9019 macrumors regular

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    osX86
    There now go get yourself a PC if you can't wait. I'm sure Apple will release updated Mac Pros around the same time as HP and Dell they just haven't announced it yet which is typical of Apple.
     
  12. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    Fallacy: You are comparing what HP announces with what Apple delivers.
     
  13. Umbongo macrumors 601

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    Enjoy HP's great pricing [​IMG]

    HP xw8400
    2x2.66GHz Woodcrest
    Nvidia NVS 285 128mb
    1GB (2x512mb) FB-DIMM
    250GB SATA hard drive
    16X DVD +-RW
    $3,491

    HP xw8400
    2x3.00GHz Clovertown
    Nvidia NVS 285 128mb
    1GB (2x512mb) FB-DIMM
    250GB SATA hard drive
    16X DVD +-RW
    $5,537


    Yes HP currently have $500 off both systems, but that is the sort of price difference you will likely still be looking at once both companies have new systems out.
     
  14. trancepriest macrumors 6502

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    Does HP even have a 8 core system on the market?
     
  15. Amethyst thread starter macrumors 6502

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    no i'm not going to buy a mac pro for gaming

    i'm a computer engineering student in a developing country that

    want a mac pro for my research project for graduate

    so i'm not come from a rich family or can make a lot of money from

    that system like you guy , then i must to think what is the thing

    that make my parent 's money most valuable


    i can't bought a system that overprice

    i can't use my parent's money to bought curent system

    but i want a system that make my idea complete smoothly.

    i want the best unix base os like leopard.

    in the other hand it like



    Too much love , Too much hate


    please apple ! please steve jobs
     
  16. foidulus macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, but then all the "consumer desktops are behind the times" threads would pop up :p

    Is it just me or does this seem like the exact opposite of the last few PPC years. From 2003-2006 the Powermac G5 seemed to get the most love while the consumer machines got almost nothing(worthwhile anyway). Now its the exact opposite, Apple's laptops are among the best around but the pro side is behind the times....
     
  17. reetcher macrumors member

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    Granted I don't know anything about the underlying architecture of a computer but honestly I never understand all this praise for the operating system. Correct me if I'm wrong but HP does run Adobe suite, Office, & Firefox. The point being I'm on the computer to work & to me that means being within a software program.

    Apple for me has been a reliable computer for my small business as I can not afford a full time tech guy - but at the same time I'm not for the HEADACHE that comes with upgrading my OS every few years only to find the stuff I really need the computer to do will no longer work. So Yes I have been waiting to upgrade my workstations until after the Leopard release.

    Now Apple has put me and my business in buying hell do I upgrade during the "holiday" season (prior to Dec 31 that I have been planing for) Do I change all my computers over to Windows needing to learn a whole new way of working just so I can have a friggin OS that will run Adobe cs3 - I'm still waiting (I do know next year I will be selling all my Apple stock - I see where this company is going - fads fad)

    As for if you haven't bought then you don't need, you sir are somebody's employee! What I don't need is an overpriced toy phone crippled from the start so they can sell version 2, a trendy walkman that can't even read raw files, or the continued WAIT of all the third party software that I do use trying to catch up with Apple's "synergy" of always updating selling you a new box full of OS but I do need a new workstation with Blueray
     
  18. takao macrumors 68040

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    well because it would be obvious ;)
     
  19. viltsu macrumors member

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    HP´s crap! Wait for the new revisions and be happy! :p
     
  20. KiraDouji macrumors member

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    reetcher,

    No one's forcing you to upgrade your OS. In the time it takes to wait out the initial release and the however long afterward that it takes for software companies to update their products, Apple will still support your current setup. I don't really understand what your point is about this. You get along fine with Tiger now. Why all the stress about upgrading or 'omg, should I get XP instead??'? Just keep doing what you've been doing for another month or so and then upgrade to Leopard, as you seem to have planned... ???

    On another note, "HP" doesn't run all of those programs; all of those programs run on Windows. Not as efficiently, and with larger hardware requirements, but they do. The OS is a big deal. Ever had a memory leak on an OSX system? No? You can get it just by putting in any Windows install disk and letting it sit in the tray for a couple of hours. It will cause a memory leak that will make it so no matter what you're doing, eventually your memory is full and your computer will auto-shutdown. Beautiful piece of work, that.

    To put it simply; if your OS isn't stable, your computer isn't stable. If your computer isn't stable, you need to hire a Tech if you're going to use it for any amount of serious work.

    - Kira
     
  21. chameleon macrumors regular

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    Alienware is offering new systems with the new Intel chips too.

    Alienware Area-51 ALX

    The estimated ship date, however, is December 31, 2007

    I'm still hoping that Apple can beat that.
     
  22. trancepriest macrumors 6502

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    Only $5,499.00... save a dollar. I wonder what you guys think the prices of the new Mac Pro systems will be? These PC sites drive me crazy... is that a 4 core system or 8 core?
     
  23. krunk macrumors regular

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    Open spotlight. Type "Terminal", open Terminal.

    I know, it looks a bit scary. But trust me, what your looking at is raw power.

    Now, do this as well:

    Open spotlight. Type "Automator", open Automator. Now browse around. Think of some ways you can save yourself hours of tedious, repetitive work with photoshop, mail, just about anything. It doesn't exist? Create one (*hint* that terminal up there or Script Editor can help in this)

    So you have both a gui and a non-gui means of automating repetitive tasks, eliminating tedium, and basically getting the bs out of your work day so you can concentrate on the part of work you enjoy. And you can have this easily and with little investment in learning "new things". Even if your not savvy or motivated enough to do this yourself, others have probably done it for you.
    For comparison, start up your xp box. Now try to hack out some batch scripts to accomplish the same thing. . .
     
  24. Eric Piercey macrumors 6502

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    Apple is going to make such a grip of cash when they release these it's sick. :p
     
  25. reetcher macrumors member

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    "No one is forcing." Except I can't use Adobe cs3 with Panther while I can't use my tethering software with Tiger(an established os) without problems. As you can see part of the dilemma is not even wanting to step in Leopard but needing workstations now.

    "those programs run on Windows. Not as efficiently,... but they do." Funny when I started everyone was using Apple now a lot of the companies doing major retouching work have switched, wonder why

    memory Leak?!? How about NOT having your software on an ESTABLISHED OS work with a client hovering over your shoulders!!!!!!

    I really truly don't want to switch but let's be honest there is a very real reason why I am even considering it.
     

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