Self-Deluded POTUS Tells 60 Minutes 'Communication' is the Problem

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  1. fivepoint, Nov 5, 2010
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    What a sad, misinformed, self-deluded President we have. He honestly thinks that the reason he lost so many seats was simply that they failed to INFORM the public of the AMAZING things they had done. Either that, or he's willfully lying to everyone and he knows damn well that the people voted specifically as a referendum to his big-government ultra-liberal quasi-socialist policies. If he can't see November's vote as a vote for smaller government, he's either an idiot, or completely delusional.

    You don't have to EXPLAIN your positions any more, Mr. Obama. We get it. You want to increase government's role in our lives. We get it, and we disagree. We disagree with your policies, not the way you communicate them to us.

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  2. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a

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    You mean we actually have a guy in the White House who acknowledges that many Americans have differing opinions and that he needs to find ways to bridge the ideological gap??

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    The Horror!
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  3. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not going to dig into everything Obama said in the interview, or all of the OP's comments. However, I will note how tired and failing a strategy it is to use the well-people-are-just-dumb tact. In a different thread, fivepoint posted an illustration suggesting that when all else fails, cry racism. I disagree. I think that when all else fails, the cool kids blame the other person, the electorate, or hell - as you occasionally hear muttered around here - "people" for being too dumb to understand your point or your side.

    Yep, Obama. Ride that horse. Blame voters for their inability to understand you.
     
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    If only Obama would speak slower, maybe I could catch more of what he's saying.
     
  5. leekohler, Nov 5, 2010
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    You don't really expect fivepoint to understand nuance, do you? I mean, we're talking about poster who can only use talking points and labels to express himself.

    You're right. He should blame the electorate for being too stupid to see through the lies of the right wing.
     
  6. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    And louder? With lots of gestures and pointing?
     
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    Obama is doing exactly what the people who elected him into office wanted him to do.

    He lost seats because he isn't able to get past the GOP obstruction..
     
  8. bradl macrumors 68040

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    So pretty much you have already presented your opinion in the title of this thread, as well as year(s)-old graphs.

    This thread already fails. How about presenting a thread with something backed up by FACTS (you know, that pesky little thing your lot's hero talked about?), then you might have a good convo.

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  9. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Conservatives don't like facts. They get in the way of their ideology. But you knew that already.
     
  10. fivepoint thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Hhahaha, how transparently ridiculous. If I didn't put my opinion in the OP, I'd be getting criticisms for just posting crap without posting my thoughts on it... Hahaha. Wow. Also, graphs a year old? Your chart reading skills really need some help. Let me help you out on this one... they aren't even close to a year old.
     
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    What an arrogant statement. In other words in his opinion what he is doing is perfect and it is us the voters who just misunderstand him. That if he could somehow dumb it down for us then we would get it and be onboard. :rolleyes:

    Maybe, just maybe, we don't want what he has to offer because we DO understand it.
     
  12. leekohler, Nov 5, 2010
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    Not likely from what we've been seeing, especially from the Tea Party, which thinks that they are being overtaxed, when the tax rate is lower than it's been in decades.

    But ya know, TAXES are the problem. What a load of horses***.
     
  13. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    "Self-Deluded POTUS" ??? is there any other kind???? :p
     
  14. bradl macrumors 68040

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    And you completely miss my point YET AGAIN. But that's expected.

    Your opinion is in the TITLE of the thread. Because of that, your post and this thread are completely tainted by your opinion, making this nothing more than a talking point Pundit post than anything.

    I'm glad you're not a journalist. you would have failed miserably at it just by interjecting opinion into it. And on a side note, perhaps I should have stayed one; I could teach those out there a good example of how TRUE journalism should be.

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  15. chrmjenkins, Nov 5, 2010
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    Ah, so now blatant mischaracterizations of the truth and reality are "opinion." Just because we say we don't like post and run people doesn't mean we want you to take a brain dump in the thread.

    No, actually he's referring to the lack of communication leading in to how many Americans don't feel they have a voice, regardless of what that voice says.

    Ultra-liberal? We don't even have UHC, something dozens of other first world countries do. Let me inform you of something. When a policy becomes the norm, it's regarded as centrist. So, while you like to imagine America deserves a title better than a country, the rest of the world plods along looking out for the welfare of its citizens and creating happy, healthy societies. That's what's normal and decent. Insisting an idea is extremist to discredit it is a horrible, horrible argument.

    Yeah, I can't believe the GOP took the House and the Senate. Obviously not part of a larger cyclical trend.

    Again, this image just goes to show how polarized and hyper-partisan we are. The middle is dropping out.
     
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    What a BRILLIANT analysis, bradl. Hey everybody in the PRSI, from now on... all thread titles must be 100% free of opinions! You've all proven yourselves to be BAD JOURNALITS, I know, right... sucks. :p :rolleyes: :D
     
  17. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    Advice to Obama:

    add in a few folksy sayings such as 'you betcha!' or 'don'tcha know'.
     
  18. benlee macrumors 65816

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    I agree with Obama's statement. The Democratic party is horrible at selling their agendas and accomplishments. While the Republicans are excellent salesmen.

    Fivepoint, to say there is a referendum on his policies is disingenuous. Many voters are clearly misinformed. And, using your logic, 2 years ago was a referendum on Republican politics.

    Name one thing that Obama did that was/is "quasi-socialist"?

    I never understood the Conservative claim of small government---maybe smaller government when it comes to regulating huge corporations, but more than willing to take away individual rights and freedoms. Democrats lost because they didn't stand by their accomplishments (ex. healthcare). They didn't clearly lay out all the good things the new law does. Also, the Republicans strategically made sure Dems made no accomplishments so they could regain power. Its a game, don't you see. The American people ARE stupid.
     
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    This is the most insightful post I've read in PRSI today.
     
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    This, from the person who posted a thread titled, "Is America becoming more like Fivepoint?"

    Yeah, right. He did what we elected him to do, so we're furious with him. That's much more plausible.

    Bingo!

    And another big part of it is the right wing media, which seem to work in unison with the GOP to distort whatever the Democrats do. Death panels, $200 million trips to India, and on and on.
     
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    It absolutely was a referendum on Republican politics two years ago. The left held a referendum on Bush's positions on the war, on the Patriot Act, Gitmo, and many other things. The conservatives held a referendum on Bush's big spending, big government policies like the bailout, prescription drug, NCLB, Patriot Act, pork, etc.


    Obamacare
     
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    1. Who is "we"? Not everyone voted for him and it looks like some of those who did are changing their minds.

    2. So the media is to blame for the recent transition? The GOP has distorted Americans perceptions, tricking them into voting for them? How presumptuous a statement.
     
  23. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Oh yeah, I forgot that the government took over all of the insurance companies and then forced everyone to pay for the government coverage.

    Thanks for reminding us!

    I'm with you. How dare he accurately portray reality.
     
  24. leekohler, Nov 5, 2010
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    They were a big part of it. They lied so often and consistently, that people thought it was the truth. That health care law we have now? The very same was implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. But it was hailed as brilliant by the GOP when he did it.
     
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    Because it's okay if you're a Republican.

    The solid majority who voted for him.

    That is how it works, you know.
     

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