Senate Republicans Vote to Let Internet Providers Sell Your Web History

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  1. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    The new rules also stated that ISPs must give users a way to opt out of having their less-sensitive information shared with third parties. The privacy rules only apply to internet service providers — think Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, Charter — and not to content companies like Facebook, Google, or Netflix. The FCC has no authority to regulate privacy practices for content providers.

    Because of this disparity, the telecom industry cried foul, saying the rules were unfair and calling on Congress and the Trump administration to stop them.
    Except I can choose not to use content companies like Facebook, Google, or Netflix; but I have no choice but to use an ISP if I want to be a functional worker in today's society.

    “Internet service providers like Comcast and AT&T have been trying to get rid of these rules since the day they were approved, and the Senate just handed them a big victory,” says Jonathan Schwantes, senior policy counsel for our colleagues at Consumers Union. “Consumers have a fundamental right to privacy. The FCC rules were carefully designed to give broadband customers greater choice and security for their private data. This move by the Senate is a huge step in the wrong direction, and it completely ignores the needs and concerns of consumers.”​
    https://consumerist.com/2017/03/23/senate-votes-to-roll-back-privacy-protections-for-internet-users/

    The actual vote:
    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00093
    All Republicans voted to screw over internet users' privacy, except Rand Paul and Johnny Isakson were too chicken to vote. All Democrats and Independents voted against.
     
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    Is it just me or will only internet porn users be upset by this?
     
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    Anyone that has in interest in reading exposed secrets via sites like Wikileaks or Cryptome would be concerned as well. Basically if you aren't 100% rah-rah-America-is-the-greatest-thing-ever-and-can-do-no-wrong should be concerned.

    If advertisers are allowed to sell it, intelligence agencies are allowed to buy which circumvents domestic spying laws (which basically aren't followed anyway due to these kinds of loopholes).
     
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    What about accessing people's political history?
     
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    Oh the noes, people will know that I'm into er...it's just easier to say women.
     
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    Torrenters as well
     
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    Isakson's out recuperating from back surgery (again, I think). So he's off the hook. I don't know what Rand Paul's excuse is. He generally lets it all hang out when he's made up his mind to be for or against something. I would have figured him opposed to this bill since he's been pro-privacy on so many issues. On the other hand he has a conservative Republican base to be concerned about and this bill's issue is wrapped up in the whole idea of regulation of the communications industry sector. So... maybe Rand Paul had a backache too and couldn't get to the floor to vote.

    Yeah we are. We're busy calling net privacy organizations about taking the ISPs to court... :)

    The thing is, both my Senators are Democrats and I'm glad how they voted but I could not have had much if any impact on how some other state's GOP Senators voted. Like I'm 100% sure Mitch McConnell is not going to read my email to him as soon as his staff mail handler sees my zip code. Only way I could reach Republican Senators in some other states is be some celebrity op-ed columnist or something, or happen to get a letter to editor published in a paper one of those guys actually reads.

    I hold media and computer-using voters in red states responsible for this fiasco. And of course I hold the soul-selling GOP responsible in the first place.

    Why does anyone shrug over this gig? To me it's a really big deal, and a bad one for consumers. It means your ISP can sell whatever they get to know about your browsing habits to anyone who inquires. We are really in thrall to industry in this country, thanks to their political contributions to politicians running for re-election. It's amazing, and disgusting.
     
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    This vote conveniently coincides with other big things.

    And I don't see Apple making a fuss about it.
     
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    Why would Apple be commenting on it? They're not an ISP....

    And believe it or not, Apple rarely comments on politics.
     
  13. cube macrumors G5

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    They complain when the government threatens privacy on iPhone. What is different about this?

    And I haven't seen CNN covering this yet on TV.
     
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    What's different is the internet is not Apple's product...was that a serious question? o_O

    That said, given the deal they made with Comcast (I'm pretty sure it's Comcast) they don't give a **** about Net Neutrality when they can pay for faster delivery of their software to enterprise customers:

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/31/5...very-network-paid-interconnection-isp-comcast
     
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    Yes, it is a serious question. iPhone means internet.

    I'm not talking about net neutrality, but about privacy.
     
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    I understand that, but iOS already has privacy mechanisms for ad tracking built in (you can reset your advertising identifier any time you feel like in settings).

    And again, the iPhone is apple's product, the internet is not.
     
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    If iOS can defeat ad tracking, it is irrelevant concerning this issue.
     
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    I'm sure employers would love to keep tabs on which of their employees are job hunting from home.
     
  19. cube macrumors G5

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    Well, some companies will be able to buy everybody's web history.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand what you're expecting Apple to do here. They can't stop your ISP from collecting data that flows through their servers.
     
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    Read that again, it doesn't "defeat" ad tracking, it merely allows you to reset the identifier when you feel like it...which no one does.
     
  22. cube macrumors G5

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    The problem is not that the ISP can collect customer data, but that they can sell it.
     
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    But how are you expecting Apple to prevent that?
     
  24. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Maybe they could provide an encrypted VPN service for a modest monthly fee?

    The consumer VPN's into Apple's data center and Apple forwards your traffic from a central location. All your local ISP would know is that you talk exclusively to Apple.
     
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    Bear with me, I'm not a techie nerd* just a tech junkie, but would a VPN negate any tracking?
    *Term of endearment.
     

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