Series 3 Gets Panned in “The Verge” Review

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  1. Tapiture macrumors 65816

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    I haven’t seen many good reviews on this new Series 3. As a Series 0 owner, I wanted to upgrade when the new watch came out this month, but now I’m reconsidering and maybe going for a Series 2 instead.
     
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  3. KPOM macrumors G5

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    It’s dubious at best until the software fix is in. Go ahead and report the issue, as it is a big deal, but grade it “incomplete” for now.
     
  4. deeddawg macrumors 604

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    Even then, I think it's probably overly optimistic to expect this first-gen LTE apple watch to last a full day with LTE active. Just how I see it.
     
  5. kreasonos macrumors regular

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    The only way this becomes a success is with some kind of battery revolution. Give me a weeks charge on it and no added charge on my plan and I’ll consider it.
     
  6. edhchoe macrumors 6502a

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    Why would you expect to have cellular signal out in the ocean?
     
  7. 2010lexus macrumors regular

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    I was wondering if you had a phone? Because if you do I’m guessing that your phone gives you a weeks charge on it .
     
  8. SRLMJ23 Contributor

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    It is not like she was way out in the ocean. She was right off shore (75-100 yards?) where you do get cellular signal. I have been on boats where, yes, if you go way out you lose service but when you get closer to shore you get service again.

    :apple:
     
  9. betabeta macrumors 6502a

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    I knew there would be battery issues, it’s not a big deal to me, I’m buying a keychain battery charger. I’m not leaving it on all the time, just when I want to check things and maybe make a call if needed.

    The watch is so small, it’s already a miracle it lasts as long as it does.
     
  10. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I disagree. The success of the Apple Watch is not based on the battery life. It's based on the functionality and the fitness/health capabilities behind it. We already know it can act as a median in between the iPhone for notifications. But what you're requesting, for a week long battery life and no add a charge on your cell your plan, is not practical.

    Most charge their Apple Watch on a daily basis anyways, so why would somebody need a weeklong battery life? Not to mention, I don't know any carrier Who would give free LTE on a regular basis for the Apple Watch, with the exception of a trial period.
     
  11. woozor1 macrumors regular

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    I live by the coast and when I go down to the seafront I don’t get signal on my phone. The verges review is stupid.
     
  12. deeddawg, Sep 22, 2017
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    deeddawg macrumors 604

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    Need to find a better beach. :) When I'm on the seafront, whether atlantic or gulf, the beaches I visit have solid cell/LTE signal. I'm sure that signal is still quite good a couple hundred yards offshore. :)
     
  13. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Really depends where the towers are guys. Used to have spotty coverage at my Dad's (Lake Huron) until Mike Lazaridis built his steel and glass (fugly) castle down the beach a couple miles (and got Rogers to put up another tower) - obviously, that was back when BlackBerry had some clout....but the tower's still there. :)
     
  14. deeddawg macrumors 604

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    Exactly. One shore having poor coverage != all shores have poor coverage.
     
  15. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Heh...yeah...in a perfect world, the carriers would have everywhere coated in LTE advanced, at least two miles off shore. :) Never gonna happen. (this is why a lot of boaters still have satellite phones) :)
     
  16. billcoff macrumors newbie

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    Just driving around town, my iPhone will default to 3G or even Edge sometimes. I can still make and receive calls, but data will be slow. I don't think the Series 3 would be able to do that when LTE isn't available.
     
  17. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Yes and no. The specs say it also supports 3G UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA), but not 2G (EDGE). I think even the former CDMA carriers still support UMTS, so there's hope. But those Edge zones need to get updated.

    Hmm. Just had another thought. That UMTS support may just be for data. Guess we won't know for certain until these are out there in the wild. :)
     
  18. dcpmark macrumors 6502a

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    Same. I have Verizon and live close to the beach in Los Angeles, and get no LTE when actually on the beach. Not sure if other carriers would do better, but Verizon clearly doesn’t have enough LTE towers near the beach. It only seems to affect LTE data, not standard cell service, but I’m assuming the watch uses data for calls.
     
  19. fischersd macrumors 601

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    This is part of the "bun fight" Apple has kicked off with the carriers. Not all of them were supporting eSIM provisioning and not all of them had support for VoLTE (voice over LTE). The Watch supports VoLTE (not sure if it will support native voice over UMTS). The carriers have deployed LTE to handle the demand for data, but have been keeping voice traffic over the 3G and 2G bands.

    Part of the problem as well is that the GSMA hasn't finalized provisions for VoLTE roaming (which is why roaming isn't supported for the watch). Apple's lighting a bit of a fire under them by doing this. (but, by all accounts, they should have finalized all of this before they started deploying LTE networks in the first place) :)
     

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