Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose

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  1. smellysox8 macrumors regular

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html

    VERY FAKE NEWS ALERT
     
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    man how many of trumps cabinet picks had things going on with Russia? I think at least three of them.
     
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    The lying is so pervasive now, we're coming to expect it from those surrounding Trump. This is unacceptable.
     
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    As the article mentions, he met as by the functions of his senatorial committee, the same way he met about 50 others ambassadors.
     
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    Stop making excuses. When he was asked about Russia during his hearing he said he had no contact with anyone from Russia. That was a lie.

    Just like Flynn lying. And Trump's lawyer. Why are these people lying about Russia. Why?
     
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    He was asked about campaign contacts, not senatorial. Big difference. You're not going to get someone like him (kinda a snake, I don't like him) with that.
     
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    All of these meetings and conversations are going to be so muddled, in terms of his job as a Senator and member of the armed services committee, and his connection to Trump's campaign.

    Probably would have just been a little clearer if he had said during the hearings that he had encounters during that time but they were in his capacity as a member of the committee. Now it just looks like another member of the administration is lying about contact with Russia. It seems to be piling up.
     
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    No difference. He met with a Russian ambassador while at the GOP convention of all places, where he was part of the campaign. It's not like this stuff happened in a seperate vacuum.
     
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    Good luck in proving perjury. The dude ain't a nice person, but he ain't stupid. Hardly a meeting in the context of Franken's question:

    Two months before the September meeting, Sessions attended a Heritage Foundation event in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention that was attended by roughly 50 ambassadors. When the event was over, a small group of ambassadors approached Sessions as he was leaving the podium, and Kislyak was among them, the Justice Department official said.

    Sessions then spoke individually to some of the ambassadors, including Kislyak, the official said. In the informal exchanges, the ambassadors expressed appreciation for his remarks and some of them invited him to events they were sponsoring, said the official, citing a former Sessions staffer who was at the event.
     
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    Shouldn't he have just said that in his hearings?

    Like I said, this may be all much ado about nothing, but it certainly looks like he was lying. In these times, perception is reality. Just ask Hillary.

    Why not just disclose any and every contact he had?
     
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    Doesn't need to be proven. Perception is everything. Just like the whole Loretta Lynch/Bill Clinton meeting. Bad optics is bad optics. And in Washington bad optics can kill politically.

    Plus this adds more to the drip drip drip problem that the Trump administration has with Russia. This is their version of Hillary's email in that it is a story narrative that just will not die. In fact, more wood just keeps getting thrown onto the fire. Not good.
     
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    The same ambassador Flynn lied to the FBI and Pence about.

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    Wrong. He was asked specifically regarding communication of people affiliated with Donald Trump's campaign and Russians. He was not asked whether he had any communications at all, including in his official capacity as U.S. Senator. I don't see how his answer was misleading at all.

    It helps to read the question he was asked, not just his answer.
     
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    You're hoping to split hairs and use semantics.

    Yes, he was a senator at the time, but he was also working for/with the Trump campaign as well at that time, which is what he was being asked about. Now, he's seemingly misunderstood the question asked.

    Where things get unusual

     
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    I mean - who DIDN'T speak to Russia before the election?
     
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    As it stands now, it's known he spoke with a Russian member. What we don't fully know is what was said and what capacity Sessions was speaking on at the time. He and his spokes people are claiming it was as a Senator but that can't be verified. We also know he was with the Trump campaign at the time. So this story is far from fake.
     
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    Is this a sarcastic statement?
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    He needs to resignation a minimum.
     
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    As @zin pointed out, he didn't answer the question he was asked during his hearings. The question asked was "what would you do," not did you personally. The original answer should have been "recuse myself." He volunteered false information that no one had requested. As a lawyer, he should have known better. As Alabamians have known for years, the man is an idiot

    As far as the difference between his duties, please. He didn't remember the meeting? He didn't remember what they discussed? Doesn't really matter about the why. Nobody even asked. He volunteered the information. The lie.

     
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    Technically speaking, he was affiliated with the Trump campaign during the time he spoke with Kislyak.
     
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    What could ever be wrong with the top law enforcement agent of the country, lying to senate committee under oath about Russian calls. Come on, it's Sessions, and Trump administration. Lying is their forte. Makes Hillary look like a piker.
     
  24. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, the usual suspects...you know.....

    Republicans like Jason Chavez:

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    .....and Kevin McCarthy:

    ...and

    Raul Labrador who also has said Sessions should recuse himself just a few minutes ago to CNN.

    ...and last night

    John McCain
    and Lindsey Graham
    who said similar things about recusal last night just as the story was breaking.

    Yeah a bunch of usual liberal suspects right there. :rolleyes:

    Both he, and now you, are attempting to mislead. He said he had no contact with Russians. That is a lie. He offered that up. He had a chance to clear it up in writing, he did not. He answered no again.

    Again you must remember that this was during a time period where news was coming out about Russia meddling in our election. Thus it was incumbent as senator to be very clear and very explicit about any dealings with Russia during his confirmation hearing for AG. Especially when it seems that no one else on the Senate Armed Services Committe talked to the Russians, including the chairman of the committee John McCain, so why would Sessions? Riddle me that Batman.

    Especially when people on that committee do not meet with ambassadors:

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    So you're really telling me that the head of the committee doesn't meet with the Russian Ambassador, and someone who has been on the committee for a decade has never meet with the Russian Ambassador, but someone connected to the Trump campaign (with it's already numerous Russian ties) does meet with the Russian Ambassador? Twice. During the campaign when the controversy was swirling. Why?
     

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