Sexism in the skies....

quagmire

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This person has to be an American tourist because this person can't spell airliner, said were instead of we're, etc.... :p

Sexist. Passive-aggressive. Rude. These are just a few ways a note left by a passenger for a commercial airline pilot could be described.

"To Capt. / WestJet," the note, written on the back of a napkin reads, "The cockpit of airlier [sic] is no place for a woman. A woman being a mother is the most honor not as "captain" Proverbs 31 (Sorry not P.C.) P.S. I wish WestJet could tell me a fair lady is at the helm so I can book another flight! Were [sic] short mothers not pilots Westjet.
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/airline-passenger-leaves-nasty-note-pilot/story?id=22784067
 

jkcerda

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Replace Mother with Father and couldn't the same be said?


I really hope this turns out to be fake, because if someone is going to insult someone else, one could at least try to do it in a language that people can understand.
no, that would be sexist :p

most kids look up to mom when they need help, they look up to dad when they want what their mothers just denied them :D
 

Arran

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I would have ignored it. It looks like a dumb joke/prank or whatever.

And why bother to post it on Facebook? There's enough rambling incoherence on there already. :)
 

vrDrew

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I wouldn't go so far as to call it sexism.

That would be the case if female flight crew were subject to discrimination and harassment from their colleagues and employers. That, apparently, is not the case.

Some cranky passenger wrote a poorly spelled note? Big deal. They are entitled to their wacky twisted interpretation of religion.

Lets be grateful we live in a society where this nut job passenger leaves a note. There are parts of the world where they would think about throwing acid in the pilot's face or blowing up the plane. I'll take a scribble on a cocktail napkin any day.
 

bradl

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It could be very real.
We had a few high profile incidents that were made up , 2 waitresses come to mind
It's real. This also was squawked on FlightAware. They have a better story of it as well:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/female-westjet-pilot-posts-passenger-s-sexist-note-on-facebook-1.2559603

Female WestJet pilot posts passenger's sexist note on Facebook
Male passenger writes on napkin, 'cockpit is no place for a woman'

CBC News Posted: Mar 04, 2014 11:57 AM PT Last Updated: Mar 05, 2014 7:07 AM PT

The female pilot of a WestJet flight from Calgary to Victoria is venting steam on Facebook over a sexist note one of her male passengers left her on an airline napkin.

The note left for Capt. Carey Smith Steacy of Surrey, B.C. ​on Sunday says, "The cockpit of an airline is no place for a woman. A woman being a mother is the most honor, not as 'captain.' Proverbs 31. Sorry not PC."

It goes on to say, "I wish WestJet could tell me a fair lady is at the helm so I can book another flight!"

The passenger, according to Smith, also asked flight attendants whether she had enough hours to be the captain as safety was important to him.

Smith posted a photo of the napkin to Facebook along with a note:
"To David. Thank you for the note, you discreetly left me on your seat," she wrote.

"I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the 'cockpit,' (we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required), is no place for a lady. In fact, there are no places that are not for ladies anymore."
WestJet declined to be interviewed, saying it felt no need to lend credibility to the author of the note.The airline goes on to say it has 1,118 male pilots and 58 female pilots, and that WestJet Encore has 96 male pilots and 10 female pilots.

"We have captains and first officers among our female pilots and always have since we launched in 1996," said WestJet.
Funny how ABC left out the pilot's reply in their posting.

I'm sure if you searched Facebook for some key words in the reply, you'll get the pilot in question.

BL.
 

bruinsrme

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I have to agree with the person that wrote the note. A woman has no business being in the cockpit.
Pilots, co-pilots, navigators and flight engineers should be the only ones in the cockpit.

To that women need to be reminded of their place and role in society.
Whether it be an astronaut, doctor, pilot, firefighter, soldier or the most important role anyone could ever fill, mother, they should be reminded and thanked for their roles in our society.
 

jkcerda

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It's real. This also was squawked on FlightAware. They have a better story of it as well:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/female-westjet-pilot-posts-passenger-s-sexist-note-on-facebook-1.2559603



Funny how ABC left out the pilot's reply in their posting.

I'm sure if you searched Facebook for some key words in the reply, you'll get the pilot in question.

BL.

(we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required)
lmao, love it.:)
 

yg17

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I was going to edit my post to say that she responded well as well as made a thinly veiled shot at the passenger's manhood, but you said it best. :)

BL.
The grammar in the note is atrocious, but "Were [sic] short mothers not pilots Westjet." makes me assume the author is a woman if were is intended to be "we're".

Or maybe it's a question - "Were short mothers not pilots Westjet?"

Who knows. I don't speak Moronese well enough to translate it.
 

samiwas

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I have to agree with the person that wrote the note. A woman has no business being in the cockpit.
Pilots, co-pilots, navigators and flight engineers should be the only ones in the cockpit.

To that women need to be reminded of their place and role in society.
Whether it be an astronaut, doctor, pilot, firefighter, soldier or the most important role anyone could ever fill, mother, they should be reminded and thanked for their roles in our society.
uhhhh….huh?
 

Mousse

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most kids look up to mom when they need help, they look up to dad when they want what their mothers just denied them :D
Which is why my standard response is: "Go ask your mother.":D:D Hurray for infinite loop routines.

I have to agree with the person that wrote the note. A woman has no business being in the cockpit.
Pilots, co-pilots, navigators and flight engineers should be the only ones in the cockpit.
If the woman is qualified, I would have no issue with her being in the cockpit. Better a qualified woman than an unqualified man.

To that women need to be reminded of their place and role in society.
Whether it be an astronaut, doctor, pilot, firefighter, soldier or the most important role anyone could ever fill, mother, they should be reminded and thanked for their roles in our society.
Yes, talented women should pass on their genes. Why can't a woman be both a mother AND an astronaut, doctor, pilot, firefighter or soldier? If a man can pull dual roles of dad AND astronaut, I don't see why a woman can't do the same?

uhhhh….huh?
I think he wants a sammich.:D
 

thekev

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uhhhh….huh?
Re-read it. He didn't actually insinuate the gender of those roles.

I have to agree with the person that wrote the note. A woman has no business being in the cockpit.
Pilots, co-pilots, navigators and flight engineers should be the only ones in the cockpit.

To that women need to be reminded of their place and role in society.
Whether it be an astronaut, doctor, pilot, firefighter, soldier or the most important role anyone could ever fill, mother, they should be reminded and thanked for their roles in our society.
Hehe.. I see what you did there.
 

quagmire

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Yeah I think everyone missed what bruins was doing.....

Except for kev. :)
 

JoeG4

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lol there is a shortage of good fathers out there. Our work environment doesn't really allow parents to split the work and the parenting tasks sadly.