SF Food Fascists Kill the Happy Meal

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  1. fivepoint, Nov 3, 2010
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/02/san-francisco-happy-meal-ban-mcdonalds_n_777939.html

    "Trust us children... the government knows what's best for you."
    In the best creepazoid big brother voice I can muster.

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  2. Queso macrumors G4

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    Reading that it only prevents the marketing of junk food to minors by adding toys to the goods offered. If the children still want the junk food their parents can still buy it, but the restaurants cannot market it specifically at the kids.

    Seriously, if you think that's fascism you need to read up on the histories of countries that have actually lived under it.
     
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    Only an idiot or someone completely uninformed would feed their kids McDonalds Happy Meals.

    I am not saying that the government should play nanny, but that food is really cr@p.
     
  5. Sky Blue, Nov 3, 2010
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    kind of agree with fivepoint here. If a parent wants to feed their kid a happy meal, that's their own problem. The worse thing is the government forcing their crappy food pyramid on everyone. Capping fats and pushing grains is ********.
     
  6. fivepoint, Nov 3, 2010
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    Only an idiot would gladly hand over their freedoms and liberties to their government, in exchange for some false sense of security.

    Only an idiot would think that feeding a kid a hamburger and fries once and a great while would be overtly detrimental to the child.

    Only an idiot would vote for local representatives who would advocate and vote for for this kind of nanny-state overreach.



    Wow, there's a first time for everything! You're exactly right about the fats/grains thing BTW. The point is though, that a nanny state government will push good things on us and bad things on us. The goal is not to analyze the quality, whether or not it's good or bad, but to stand up consistently and loudly against forcing things on us at all.
     
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    Only an idiot would equate banning a cheap toy being included with a fast food meal with fascism.

    I'm sure people living in actual fascist countries would gladly trade the government they have for San Francisco.
     
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    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin

    BTW, is your argument seriously 'at least SF isn't as bad as REAL fascist countries.' Haha, well, yes... and it will be interesting to see where your city/state end up if that's your measure of success.
     
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    FP has created a fun thread, for once.

    Please, continue. :D
     
  10. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Completely ineffective as McDonald's can just give toys away to kids for free and not tie getting the toy to buying a Happy Meal.

    I'm loving it. :D
     
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    "No purchase necessary."????

    Right, I can sure see that happening ........ not!! lol
     
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    I don't think the right to a happy meal toy was what Benjamin Franklin had in mind.

    Of all the freedoms that have been taken away, this is the one you're comparing to fascism? The Patriot Act can legitimately be compared to fascism. Warrantless wiretapping can legitimately be compared to fascism. This? Not so much. Stupid law? Yes, but fascism, I don't think so.

    All I'm saying that you might call not being able to get a cheap Chinese made toy painted with lead based paint in your happy meal fascism, but the people who live in actual fascist countries would probably disagree with you and be offended that you would actually call the happy meal ban fascism, when they're living under real fascism. Go try living in North Korea or Iran for awhile, after a day you'll be begging to come back to the US even if it means living in the Castro district in San Francisco for the rest of your life.
     
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    I've lived in SF and I wouldn't go as far as calling is fascist, but it certainly is a microcosm of political weirdness.

    Having to go as far as banning a happy meal for instance, kind of proves that.
     
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    Oh dear. :eek:

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  15. fivepoint thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's definitely what he was talking about. See, that's the difference between liberals and true constitutional conservatives. You think it's only fascism when the government control over your life is something that you disagree with. For us, it has nothing to do with whether or not I like it. I hate people smoking in restaurants, but I would defend to the death the restaurant owners right to choose what was best for his establishment. I don't want my kids to eat happy meals all the time, but I'll defend to the death McDonald's right to sell them.

    If you're sitting back, considering the impact on society, and saying something about the 'poor kids', etc... you're considering too much. This is a question about freedom and liberty, not your individual opinion on the status of obesity in America.



    Hahaha, LOL, I love that your defense of this action is to say "hey, at least we're not as bad as North Korea! Go try and live there!" ;) Absolutely priceless.
     
  16. IntelliUser macrumors 6502

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    Only an idiot or someone completely uninformed would make such a statement

    There are people who like it.
     
  17. Queso macrumors G4

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    Once again, nobody is banning McDonalds from selling their (IMO) ****** food, or banning parents from feeding it to their kids.

    The only thing being banned is the toy. The only limitation here is on the marketing of the product, in the same way that tobacco advertising isn't permitted on television, or alcohol sponsorship in sport.

    This is a non-story IMO, and a long long way from fascism. Ben Franklin would laugh if he saw this thread :)
     
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    I always find fascists justifying their fascist fascism, fascinating.

    Fascia. Fascicle.
     
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    Mmmm, no, I don't think I'd wish the stupidvisors on anybody. I mean, they're not throwing dissidents in prison or anything, but it's always a circus of one sort or another, though I've been fairly pleased at how my own supervisor has tended to be uncommonly reasonable and steer clear of that crapfest.

    But nevertheless, I guess we can add "fascism" to the list of terms 5P uses as epithets without the slightest clue what they mean. I don't support this ban, but it cannot in any sense be correctly described as fascism.

    And they sure as hell can't make the trains run on time.
     
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    So now I, a 41 year old male, cannot go to a SF McDonald's and purchase a Happy Meal for my own consumption and add the toy to my collection?
     
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    Straight from Dictionary.app

     
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    Let me fix that for you:

    "See, that's the difference between liberals and true constitutional conservatives. You think it's only fascism when it is fascism and use the term correctly. For us, we use the word incorrectly so that we can use hyperbolic rhetoric."
     
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    But I thought leaving things up to local/state governments was a good thing?

    BTW, I think this is a stupid decision myself.
     
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    I thought SF was a socialist city? How can they be the polar opposite and be fascist at the same time?
     
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    I believe this is not correct. You can buy the Happy Meal, and you can obtain the toy, but you will have to put the toy into the box yourself.
     

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