Shaming Children So Parents Will Pay the School Lunch Bill

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/well/family/lunch-shaming-children-parents-school-bills.html?_r=0
On the first day of seventh grade last fall, Caitlin Dolan lined up for lunch at her school in Canonsburg, Pa. But when the cashier discovered she had an unpaid food bill from last year, the tray of pizza, cucumber slices, an apple and chocolate milk was thrown in the trash.

“I was so embarrassed,” said Caitlin, who said other students had stared. “It’s really weird being denied food in front of everyone. They all talk about you.”

Caitlin’s mother, Merinda Durila, said that her daughter qualified for free lunch, but that a paperwork mix-up had created an outstanding balance. Ms. Durila said her child had come home in tears after being humiliated in front of her friends
freaking retarded to throw the food away when the kid is trying to eat it. one state is doing better https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/well/family/new-mexico-outlaws-school-lunch-shaming.html
I do like some of the ideas
In Alabama, a child short on funds was stamped on the arm with “I Need Lunch Money.” In some schools, children are forced to clean cafeteria tables in front of their peers to pay the debt. Other schools require cafeteria workers to take a child’s hot food and throw it in the trash if he doesn’t have the money to pay for it.
I don't see much problem working for your meal, that should teach the kid to do well so that he can provide for himself in the future.
 

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Cleaning tables? This is what they did when I was a young lad going to school. If you couldn't pay for lunch, they let you eat, but kindly asked you clean a table or two using some warm water solution. This was long before computers were common, far long before the internet was even invented, no one thought of making cell phones, and a portable music player was a 50 lb boombox, also before the awful ****** music of the 1980s.

You weren't forced to clean then. If you didn't, you'd be reported to a teacher who'd ask you stay after classes for 5-10 minutes.
 
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Shaming kids to punish the parent? Man that sounds like a religion doing it. I don't mind having the kid work but to shame them in front of others is just being mean. Now maybe if you made the parents do it that would be better.
 

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Shaming kids to punish the parent? Man that sounds like a religion doing it. I don't mind having the kid work but to shame them in front of others is just being mean. Now maybe if you made the parents do it that would be better.
I foresee a reality TV show based on the practice. Good thinking, Steve.
 

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My kids regularly rotate through cafeteria chores as a matter of practice at their schools. Table washer, sweeper, throw away stuff from the table. Normal business for all the kids, K-6.
 
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Technically, the lunch costs a fraction of what the child pays. And the cost of acquiring is already a sunk cost or rather depending on the state. Some states pay public schools for each attending child on a daily basis. Technically speaking, the cost of buying the lunch materials from the supplier was already paid off prior to the child picking it up. If anything, it's simply wasted food.
 

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My kids regularly rotate through cafeteria chores as a matter of practice at their schools. Table washer, sweeper, throw away stuff from the table. Normal business for all the kids, K-6.
If that's normal for everyone, then so be it.

If it's done as a punishment to the poor kids, who have done literally nothing wrong here, that's just making their lives more miserable and humiliating them in front of their peers.
 
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If that's normal for everyone, then so be it.

If it's done as a punishment to the poor kids, who have done literally nothing wrong here, that's just making their lives more miserable and humiliating them in front of their peers.
Yes, I don't disagree with this; you are right that kids shouldn't be shamed for their parents' misfortune.
 

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Yea, stupid you for not living in poverty simply to take advantage of a school lunch program :rolleyes:
Setting aside the comment by @s2mike , you actually don't even need to be "poor" to qualify for free or reduced lunch. Last I checked, you can eat reduced if your household income is 80% of the median and free if you're under 150% of the federal poverty level. That's for a family of 4 and it goes up with larger family sizes.

Other than simply irresponsibility, I don't think there are many situations where parents should be sending kids to school with no way to eat lunch.
 

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Setting aside the comment by @s2mike , you actually don't even need to be "poor" to qualify for free or reduced lunch. Last I checked, you can eat reduced if your household income is 80% of the median and free if you're under 150% of the federal poverty level. That's for a family of 4 and it goes up with larger family sizes.

Other than simply irresponsibility, I don't think there are many situations where parents should be sending kids to school with no way to eat lunch.
Great, that's just a band aid to the fact that almost half of Americans have no money whatsoever given the state of employment in America.
 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/well/family/lunch-shaming-children-parents-school-bills.html?_r=0
freaking retarded to throw the food away when the kid is trying to eat it. one state is doing better https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/well/family/new-mexico-outlaws-school-lunch-shaming.html
I do like some of the ideas
I don't see much problem working for your meal, that should teach the kid to do well so that he can provide for himself in the future.
So, let me understand, you and the people who gave this post a like support shaming students?
 

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What's wrong with employment and why do you think that half of Americans have no money?
Employment is near "full" but wages are so low that nearly half on Americans cannot scrounge up $500 in an emergency.

Now, some would make the absurd claim that somehow ~125 million Americans are just too lazy or stupid to save money, but that argument is absolutely absurd when purchasing power of wages is less than that of 1968, while living expenses have increase multifold.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-afford-a-500-emergency-expense/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/#1fd69d264e0d

So that's what's wrong with the system.
 
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Employment is near "full" but wages are so low that nearly half on Americans cannot scrounge up $500 in an emergency.

Now, some would make the absurd claim that somehow ~125 million Americans are just too lazy or stupid to save money, but that argument is absolutely absurd when purchasing power of wages is less than that of 1968, while living expenses have increase multifold.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-afford-a-500-emergency-expense/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/#1fd69d264e0d

So that's what's wrong with the system.
From your first article:

Only 41% of adults reported having enough in their savings account to cover a surprise bill of this magnitude. A little more than 20% said they would put it on a credit card, the report said, while 20% would cut their spending and 11% would turn to friends and family for financial assistance.
Creating a cash cushion can seem like an unrealistic task, especially for those living paycheck to paycheck. But Cornfield said there's usually some wiggle room in a budget to cut back.
Most people can accumulate savings, some just choose not to.