she got called a coon.............


LIVEFRMNYC

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Funny how everyone wants to tell BLM what to do. As a black man, I'm happy enough that any group that focuses on black issues has such a large voice, cause there is very few that have a voice outside the black community.

Yes, she made some good points. But those points are not necessarily black only issues. Crime, drug abuse, bad parenting, school dropouts, and etc is rampant among white, hispanic, and other ethnic groups too.

What she failed at is what most critics fail at, which is mentioning the fact that BLM was formed as an activist group to shed light on the abuse and targeting from police towards blacks, and how the justice system does little to nothing about it.
 

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Funny how everyone wants to tell BLM what to do. As a black man, I'm happy enough that any group that focuses on black issues has such a large voice, cause there is very few that have a voice outside the black community.

Yes, she made some good points. But those points are not necessarily black only issues. Crime, drug abuse, bad parenting, school dropouts, and etc is rampant among white, hispanic, and other ethnic groups too.

What she failed at is what most critics fail at, which is mentioning the fact that BLM was formed as an activist group to shed light on the abuse and targeting from police towards blacks, and how the justice system does little to nothing about it.

The question you need to ask yourself is who is actually looking after your interests and not just preaching to the choir. Did you ever consider the possibility the black community is being used as pawns to get their votes?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dnc-black-lives-matter-memo_us_57c6f80de4b078581f1072ca
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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The question you need to ask yourself is who is actually looking after your interests and not just preaching to the choir. Did you ever consider the possibility the black community is being used as pawns to get their votes?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dnc-black-lives-matter-memo_us_57c6f80de4b078581f1072ca

Nobody is for any of our interest 100%. And reading that memo, I honestly don't blame the DNC for doing that. BLM made it a point to interrupt the campaigns of both sides to make their voice heard. Of course campaigns will resist in their own way.
 
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darksithpro

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Nobody is for any of our interest 100%. And reading that memo, I honestly don't blame the DNC for doing that. BLM made it a point to interrupt the campaigns of both sides to make their voice heard. Of course campaigns will resist in their own way.

Well... Just ask yourself this question. In all the crime laden districts and cities, where black on black crime persists, what political party is in control of those districts and cities? In all the time the Democrats have had control of those districts has the circumstances changed for black families? Have the black community been able to advance and get themselves out of poverty?
 
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Well... Just ask yourself this question. In all the crime laden districts and cities, where black on black crime persists, what political party is in control of those districts and cities? In all the time the Democrats have had control of those districts has the circumstances changed for black families? Have the black community been able to advance and get themselves out of poverty?
Actually yes. In many Dem and Rep controlled districts and cities, there are many black neighborhood that were once crime ridden, and have become a much better place. And I'm speaking on the ones that haven't been gentrified. Whether it's the people themselves or the politicians that should take credit, that's a whole other topic dependent on specific areas.

One thing I know is, the media and politicians love to take the worst examples and influence a generalization of all black neighborhoods. Chicago for example.
 

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Well... Just ask yourself this question. In all the crime laden districts and cities, where black on black crime persists, what political party is in control of those districts and cities? In all the time the Democrats have had control of those districts has the circumstances changed for black families? Have the black community been able to advance and get themselves out of poverty?
Urban areas are universally democratic.
 

shinji

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Well... Just ask yourself this question. In all the crime laden districts and cities, where black on black crime persists, what political party is in control of those districts and cities? In all the time the Democrats have had control of those districts has the circumstances changed for black families? Have the black community been able to advance and get themselves out of poverty?
Cities are affected by state and federal law, too. From mandatory minimum sentencing to Medicaid to the economy to the fallout from the subprime mortgage crisis, not every problem faced by people in inner cities can be blamed on mayors and councils.
 

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I have often said that BLM has missed the mark when they are protesting. Their message is mixed and the people they are protesting for usually have a criminal background and/or are doing the wrong thing. I thought she nailed it...
People with a criminal background don't deserve to be shot.
 

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What she failed at is what most critics fail at, which is mentioning the fact that BLM was formed as an activist group to shed light on the abuse and targeting from police towards blacks, and how the justice system does little to nothing about it.
BLM started because they didn't like the outcome of the Trevon Martin trial.

It quickly evolved into including law enforcement. Why their scope does not include Black on Black crime like Chicago escapes me.
 

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Yes, she made some good points. But those points are not necessarily black only issues. Crime, drug abuse, bad parenting, school dropouts, and etc is rampant among white, hispanic, and other ethnic groups too.
Coming from a rural area, I can confirm this, and with the current heroin epidemic it's only getting worse.

This isn't a partisan issue either, Democrats have total control of urban areas, Republicans rural, neither of which the situation is improving for.

I don't know where to stand on this issue either, I would like to see more programs to help people, but the people in need of help aren't really seeking it either. The core problem is cultural on both ends, and unfortunately that's the only place I think the solution is going to come from. It's not going to end until enough people say "Whoa, we've gotta shape up", and start taking responsibility for their actions. Fat chance I know.
 

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Police officers don't get shot very much.
Actually they do, they just aren't deemed news worthy but okay...

I have no sympathy for people who fight back against the police and have bad things happen to them. Don't want to get shot, don't be an idiot and do what they ask. Don't like the way they treated you? Sue... at least you will be alive.
 

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BLM started because they didn't like the outcome of the Trevon Martin trial.

It quickly evolved into including law enforcement. Why their scope does not include Black on Black crime like Chicago escapes me.
If you want to tackle black on black crime the black community needs to respect the police.
 

diamond.g

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no, they need to respect EACH OTHER. listening to cRAP might make that harder when they mostly rap about shooting other "N's" and women are all sluts/bitches blah blah blah blah.
Conscious rap (like KRS-One) doesn't sell in the main demographic that keeps rappers rapping 'bout dat life': young whites.

This ten year old video (long) does try to help highlight some of what you are talking about.
 
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