I think Verizon has been shipping theirs out faster, because I saw another person who ordered on the 24th and got it yesterday. I ordered white 32gb on the 25th from Apple and the delivery time was 3-4 weeks
64GB Black ordered thru Verizon Enterprise Center/Business, ordered 9/24. Status in Enterprise Center says "PRE" ... whatever that means. No one, including my account team, can tell me what that means. Expected ship date is 10/19.