iPhoto 4 = Photoshop Album 2.0 and Photoshop Elements Motion = Adobe After Effects Final Cut Pro = Adobe Premiere Pro DVD Studio Pro 3 = Adobe Encore DVD Logic = Adobe Audition Shake = Adobe Video Collection Not sure how much Adobe is worth, but why not Apple buy Adobe and kill off the PC version(s). That way it will increase mac sells. Just a thought. Why they are at it, why not Macromedia!?