Should citizens who are on goverment benefits or unemployed lose their right to vote?

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  1. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    I hear this from people I know on the right quite a bit, and I have seen it more than once from pro GOP and right wing sites.

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    Should those are are unemployed or on assistance programs lose the right to vote?

    Yes or no?
     
  2. Renzatic Suspended

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    No. Hell no. Any legal resident over the age of 18, regardless of status, should be allowed the right to vote.
     
  3. mojolicious macrumors 68000

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    I think you need to be far more selective about who you mix with.
     
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    yes, some should be burned at the stake as well to teach them not to be poor :eek:

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States

    would any here be ok with I.D being required in order for you to vote?

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  5. chrono1081 macrumors 604

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    Sadly for some of us it's almost EVERYONE we know.

    I live in PA, it's one of the most backwards states in the country aside from the few big cities (Pittsburgh, Philly, Harrisburg).
     
  6. G51989 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I was gonna say.

    I have TONS of family in Pittsburgh PA, and as far as cities go. And I've been all over the world, I can say this about visiting Pittsburgh, it has incredible cultural wonders, amazing buildings and bridges for its size, amazingly nice people who seem to be VERY liberal and tolerant compared to the rest of PA, some of the best food I've ever had in my life. An incredible skyline and riverside, and an accent I can't put my finger on but l love.

    I feel Pittsburgh has to be one of the most underrated cities in the world.

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    Honestly, most of them are people I knew growing up who are on my facebook.
     
  7. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    so maybe those who benefit from a tax cut should also lose their right to vote.....after all we know they're just going to vote for those candidates that promise the most. It's just our human nature. :p


    the principal expressed wouldn't really leave many, if any, voters would it?
     
  8. G51989 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Agreed 100%
     
  9. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    from an election or two ago, I remember a story about a pollster working in PA ......the story itself was amusing but the description of PA was relevant to your post.......PA being a place consisting of Pittsburg and Philly with Alabama between them :p
     
  10. G51989 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Having family in PA, been to Pittsburgh and Philly a lot for family and I've been doing business in Pittsburgh PA lately.

    100% agree.
     
  11. Jessica Lares macrumors G3

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    I find that offensive as a disabled person who is discriminated enough. Just because I look a certain way (from birth defects and half finished surgeries - don't worry, my parents paid for those :rolleyes:) and talk differently (because of a speech problem), doesn't mean I'm stupid. Hell, I got into pretty much every society there is in high school and was known for being smart. I watch the news, read the news, and debate the news just like everyone else.

    There's a bigger picture to a candidate than what they are "promising" to give people on these programs.
     
  12. Eraserhead, May 10, 2014
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    If there was an actual problem with voter fraud of course I'd support ID requirements. But if there isn't a problem then it's just big government for the sake of it.
     
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    That's right. Many, if not most people vote to socialise the their costs. Companies and the rich want tax breaks, the retired want social security, parents want children's services, the unemployed want unemployment benefits, gov't employees want public-sector benefits etc etc...
     
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    Why just welfare? Why not tax breaks and/or credits or subsidies too? If you're sucking off the public tit, you don't vote. :rolleyes:

    For a country that holds itself up to the world as a bastion of freedom, we sure do make it hard for our population to vote.
     
  15. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Who is going to investigate this and how? If we aren't checking people's ID when they vote they could have registered as anyone and voted. They could also be showing up for your court trial in the jury. The left loves to act like there couldn't be a problem while restricting the only method that could show it. No one is going to show up to vote and tell you they are illegal, they may have been here so long that they don't even remember that they don't have voting status. A free national ID should be issued to anyone who requests it with a valid SSN and ID should be required.

    As for welfare, I think they should be offered extra money to take a birth control shot and be handed a bag of condoms.
     
  16. Tsuchiya macrumors 68020

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    lolwut

    I love how these nut bags try to write eloquently in an attempt to hide a dumb ****ing argument.
     
  17. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    There is an ID check, just not a photo ID check. You have to say what your name and address is and that is matched against the voting records.

    If you can point to evidence showing that anyone is deliberately suppressing research into this I'll change my mind.
     
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    Where is the ID check? When I voted they asked my name and looked it up in the book and marked it off, nothing else. Are you from the US/have you voted there?

    Anyone can submit a registration card.

    Another scenario would be to open an unlimited seating theater to the public, but require no tickets to verify people paid. Prove that people are coming to the theater illegally. Revenues are handled by another department.
     
  19. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    We require an ID to purchase alcohol, purchase cigarettes, enter a federal building, check into a hotel, use a credit card, cash a check, pick up a prescription, etc, etc. Isn't voting more important than all of these things?

    The state of Georgia was one of the first states to have a Voter ID law. A Voter ID has no cost and can be picked up at all 159 County Registrar's Offices or any DDS (think DMV) location. These are the same locations that you go to register to vote or cast an early voting ballot.

    Why is it such a bad idea to verify the identity of those voting? Is this not worth protecting? Some say voter fraud isn't a problem so we don't need to worry about it, yet... Why wait until after an election is stolen before doing something to protect it? Then there are those that will try and say that it hurts minorities. I'm not buying it. You can't convince me that minorities are less able to figure out where to get their free ID than non-minorities.

    In Georgia more minorities have voted in every election since passing the law, than before.

    Only 1,586 people in four years had their votes not counted because they didn't come back and show the required identification, out of 13,600,000 votes.
     
  20. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Right so if the rightful voter comes along later you'll find out about it won't you.
     
  21. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Which isn't going to be stopped by an ID requirement on polling.

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    Because it's big government solving a problem that doesn't exist.
     
  22. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Absolutely! All recipients of any government programs should be denied the rights of citizenship.

    I mean...all those slacker slobs receiving Social Security and Medicare...what are they doing for the country! A bunch of feeble old slobs just sucking on the government teat!

    The Inuits had it right...when someone became a burden, or a drain, on the group, and were unable to contribute for any reason...put them on an ice flow and bye-bye.






    :rolleyes::rolleyes: <----Two...just to be clear.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Except he didn't actually vote as that would have landed him in jail when the real Eric Holder turned up.
     
  24. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Not if I registered as an illegal under a different name.
     

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