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The last week I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 which I just bought only about 2/3 months ago and I definitely enjoy using my iPad all the time and the iPad Air 2 is my main computer and replaced/ditched my laptop and I think iPad is the best tablet out there ahead of Microsoft with there Surface pro series tablets and high end Android tablets from Samsung and Google. :) :)

I know this is very stupid and very silly reason to sell my iPad but due to reports recently that the tablet market(including the iPad) in general is dying(because of the sales is down) and the interest and usage of using tablets like the iPad is going down because people are using there phablets and going back to there laptops or using a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead of a tablet like the iPad and a Android tablet so that's means one thing that in the future there is a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future.

So I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 because of that and get a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead but I don't really want use a Windows 2/1 hybrid tablet because they are bigger and more heavy and the OS Windows definitely is not touch friendly, there is not many apps that are touch friendly and required a mouse to navigate properly and Windows 2/1 hybrid tablets make not so good as tablets compared to the iPad and Android tablets.

With all that being said I definitely don't want the tablet market to be ignored in the future just like the netbook market couple years ago and I just love tablets(I don't like laptops) especially with a touch friendly OS like IOS on the iPad!! :)

And the thought of the tablet market maybe being ignored in the future makes me sad!! :( :(


So iPad users, Should I sell my iPad because of a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future??? And do you think the tablet market will be ignored/dead in the future because of phablets and Windows 2/1 hybrids?? And what is the future of tablets??
 
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Don't worry about the macro market, it's not really going to make any difference in the grand scheme of things,

If it does with your finances, I'd say take a breather from consumption devices all together
 
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The last week I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 which I just bought only about 2/3 months ago and I definitely enjoy using my iPad all the time and the iPad Air 2 is my main computer and replaced/ditched my laptop and I think iPad is the best tablet out there ahead of Microsoft with there Surface pro series tablets and high end Android tablets from Samsung and Google. :) :)

I know this is very stupid and very silly reason to sell my iPad but due to reports recently that the tablet market(including the iPad) in general is dying(because of the sales is down) and the interest and usage of using tablets like the iPad is going down because people are using there phablets and going back to there laptops or using a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead of a tablet like the iPad and a Android tablet so that's means one thing that in the future there is a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future.

So I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 because of that and get a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead but I don't really want use a Windows 2/1 hybrid tablet because they are bigger and more heavy and the OS Windows definitely is not touch friendly, there is not many apps that are touch friendly and required a mouse to navigate probably and Windows 2/1 hybrid tablets make not so good as tablets compared to the iPad and Android tablets.

With all that being said I definitely don't want the tablet market to be ignored in the future just like the netbook market couple years ago and I just love tablets(I don't like laptops) especially with a touch friendly OS like IOS on the iPad!! :)


So iPad users, Should I sell my iPad because of a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future??? And do you think the tablet market will be ignored/dead in the future because of phablets and Windows 2/1 hybrids?? And what is the future of tablets??

I have iPad mini 4 and iPad Pro 12.9", and also have MacBook Pro 15", and iPhone 6. I'm not going to ditch any of them, and I don't think tablets market will be going down, at least about Apple products.
I think if you don't use Windows and like to replace with iPad, and can make it, that's what you better do, not based on "everyone doing this". Every one of us has different needs, different use of those things. I once tried android tablet, and totally hate it and sold even in few days. But iPad fit my needs and battery hours are much better, so many great Apps, there is no reason I'm going to give them up and going back to Windows. Well, Windows always sucked from my experience. Crash and crash and crash, very vulnerable, useless to me.
 
I don't think tablets are dying, but even if they are, it's not like they are going to stop working tomorrow. You'll have years to transition to hybrids, or whatever the next big thing turns out to be. No need to rush out and switch right this minute.
 
So, because of the possibility of something happening in the future, you're prepared to ditch your current device that is working perfectly for you?

Can you elaborate on what you mean by the market being ignored?

Just keep your iPad.
It must be something in the air, solar flares, global warming, or an invasion of pod-people taking the place of humans while they sleep, but this is not the first post in the past few days asking about tablets being discontinued. I don't get it. Tablets, iPads in particular, haven't been in a better position of being useful and enjoyable.

I'm really curious as to why this sentiment seems to be on the rise.
 
With the decline in the PC market as well, I don't think you will be safe with a windows 2/1 hybrid either. Not to mention the decline in the smartphone market, so you may as well sell your phone just to be safe.

Posts like this can't be real can they be?
 
Nah, I'd say the opposite.

With the launch of the iPad Pro, Apple is starting to make broad strokes towards putting more emphasis on the usability and productivity of the iPad line as a whole. It's around to stay and I think is due for massive improvements on the software end, which it has been lacking and adding to the stale factor.

Really, I'd say that up until recently I would have wondered the same - beyond actually using a tablet for general browsing and appeal of the form factor there hasn't been much umpf. I'd say Apple is intending to change that and has a lot incentive to do so soon. I also think iPad (and tablets in general) have a fantastic place along side the general computer, with each having subtle pros over another.
 
Silly reasoning to ditch a device you use every day.

Even if the tablet market were to die tomorrow - I.E., Apple discontinues all iPads, Microsoft ditches the Surface line, and Samsung discontinues all 384 of their different tablet lines, your iPad will still work. It works for you, so don't worry about the market. Use it until it no longer works for you, then upgrade to something else that suits your needs at that time.
 
Keep what works for you now. The tablet market is saturated now, just like the pc market. Hence decline in sales. Most people don't upgrade every year, nor do they need to.
 
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So...
  1. I don't think of tablet/iPad sales as 'declining' but rather 'normalizing'. Rocketing sales is unsustainable, but just because it's leveling off, does not mean 'dying'.
  2. Selling a device because of an irrational fear that the market will be 'abandoned' is... Not the correct method of thinking. The tablet market will not be abandoned by developers or manufacturers. If you need/want a 2-in-1, then do it for those reasons. If Apple announces it will stop making iPads, THEN you have something to worry about. Otherwise, don't worry.
 
I don't think iPads are going to be discontinued anytime soon. People aren't replacing their iPads very often and that accounts for declining sales. I think iPads still occupy a unique niche that can't be exactly replaced with a lightweight notebook or a 2 in 1.
 
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It must be something in the air, solar flares, global warming, or an invasion of pod-people taking the place of humans while they sleep, but this is not the first post in the past few days asking about tablets being discontinued. I don't get it. Tablets, iPads in particular, haven't been in a better position of being useful and enjoyable.

I'm really curious as to why this sentiment seems to be on the rise.
Baffles me too, BTW, thanks for bringing back my fav Avatar
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Baffles me too, BTW, thanks for bringing back my fav Avatar
Just got the 9.7 " iPad Pro, best of all I have had so far, that said still have the iPad Mini 2,LTE always with me in the car
 
I wouldn't recommend a 2 in 1 over an iPad. I had the 'Microsoft is out innovating apple' Surface 3 and it was glitchy to say the least. Now I believe the iPad is outselling the Surface.

Two devices for two jobs not a mish mash I don't know what I am device.

No one will drop £$ each year to keep up to date with marginal improvements. Well... Some might. According to my research the iPad 2 still remains the most used iPad. It does the job for most.

Again with marginal improvements and no must have feature there is no need to upgrade tablets or iPads every year or even every two.

Your Air 2 will still be faster than the competition and more up to date in a good few years. Never mind the Pro owners especially the 4GB RAM 12.9' owners.

Last point. The 2 in 1's are imo just budding so they will update and mess with them till they perfect them giving more need to upgrade. Just keep your iPad and enjoy it.
 
Well on the grand scheme of things, get whichever device fulfils two main objectives. 1. It should meet all of your retirements. 2. You should be as sure as you can that you'll be happy with it for at least 2-3 years.


Other than that, I personally don't think the tablet market or the market for iPads specifically is going to die off any time soon.
Yes there's a decline in sales, but they are still selling a massive amount on a yearly basis. With a percentage of people using phablets (I hate that bloody word :D) some shifting to the convertibles and most importantly of all, many people keeping their iPads far longer than they do something like the iPhone, sales are bound to swing up and down.

The highest quarter for iPad sales was Q1 2014, only two years ago an around the launch of the iPad Air 2 which itself would have spiked sales. When you look at a chart of lifetime iPad sales, outside of new product launches which cause a spike in sales, the normal quarterly sales since Q2 2011 have always been in the 10-15 million units. So yeah, there's a bit of a dip just now, but it's not really outside of the normal quarterly performance metrics.


I could waffle on for ages, so unlike me :D but basically, nah, the iPad market isn't dying anytime soon.
 
Yes there's a decline in sales, but they are still selling a massive amount on a yearly basis.

That's a very important point to keep in mind. Even in the "disappointing sales" department, the money being made off of iPads is still a number other companies can be envious of. If you look at it from quarter/year-over-quarter/year perspective, then of course you're going to eventually disappoint yourself no matter who/what you're looking at. If you look at it from a "wow! We're selling a freaking ton of these and making a lot of money to boot!" Perspective, it's less disappointing.

I wouldn't recommend a 2 in 1 over an iPad. I had the 'Microsoft is out innovating apple' Surface 3 and it was glitchy to say the least. Now I believe the iPad is outselling the Surface.
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Last point. The 2 in 1's are imo just budding so they will update and mess with them till they perfect them giving more need to upgrade. Just keep your iPad and enjoy it.

Some notes to keep in mind with the Surface: Sales were absolutely dismal. Now we're at a point where we're bragging about the iPad outselling the Surface. Translation: The Surface has come a LOOOOOOONG way since the RT/SP2 days. Sales of the Surface really started to pick up with the SP3 - and have been doing well enough to start being compared to iPad Sales (whereas before they weren't in the same ballpark).

I'm going to single out the Surface Pro 3/4 because I think they're amazing devices. Where the Surface Pro is concerned, I would hardly call the book closed on 2-in-1s (not to say there's anything negative about the SP...). You are correct, though, that they are beginning to bud.

The best explanation I've heard was when somebody said:
"The Surface Pro is a laptop that's trying to be a tablet, but doesn't do a very good job of being a tablet. The iPad Pro is a tablet trying to be a laptop, but doesn't do a very good job of being a laptop." (Paraphrasing)
 
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Let's all remember that the pundits saying the tablet market is "dying" were the same ones that were saying (and some are still saying) that the PC market is "dying." Neither statement is true.

What's happening is that the market is settling. Tablets didn't exist before, and they disrupted the PC market. With no historic data to go on, any drop is seen as a death knell.

The fact is: people are still buying tablets AND PCs, just not in the numbers that that they used to when tablets were brand new. There's going to be an explosion at the beginning, and then a settling.

It also doesn't help that on the processor side of things, advancements are limited. PC processors aren't getting regularly updated. And arguably, most users aren't seeing a reason to update their iPads or other tablets every year, and sometimes not even every two years.

And on top of it all: there's this hyper-assumption among investors that there can be only one "thing," and everything else is a complete flop and failure. Apple is either dominating smartphones, or they about to go bankrupt. iPads are either constantly growing in sales, or that's it, no one will ever buy one.

The reality is quite different: there is, and SHOULD be, more than one platform and vendor in the marketplace. That also means that the law of large numbers has to be obeyed: you can never increase infinitely. There is always a limit; always a period that won't be as great as past periods. But that doesn't mean complete failure is imminent, either.

If you're selling your iPad because you're buying into this hype, then you might as well not buy a PC or Mac either. Go buy yourself VR headset, because apparently that's what investors think is the next big thing. And since you won't have a tablet or desktop to connect it to, that market will eventually tank, too.
 
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Tablets are not going away. The iPad is the main focus of Apple right now along with the iPhone as always. iOS devices count for most of Apple's revenue. They are finally showing the iPad line the attention it deserves and are not afraid to cannibalize their own laptop line in the process.

Several of my coworkers have sold their MacBook or PC in favor of the 12.9 iPad Pro. Everyone I show mine to makes the same comment. "Wow, now that is something I could replace my laptop with."

Regardless of the choruses of those on MacRumors who say that the iPad can't replace a laptop, it most certainly can for 75-80 percent of users. Apple is finally capitalizing on this, and marketing the iPad as a computer replacement. In my opinion, that's exactly why they called it the pro.

As far as declining tablet sales, it's the same reason pc sales are down. If it isn't broke, why fix it? People are still rocking their iPad 2, 3, 4, or Air. Damn Apple for making a product that lasts....

Lastly, no one is out innovating Apple. The Surface Pro's are a mess in the software department. They make a half assed laptop and a terrible tablet. They look good, but still come with the headache that is Windows.

The perfect "all in one" device does not exist, nor will it ever. In my opinion though, the iPad Pro is the closest we have gotten so far.
 
That's a very important point to keep in mind. Even in the "disappointing sales" department, the money being made off of iPads is still a number other companies can be envious of. If you look at it from quarter/year-over-quarter/year perspective, then of course you're going to eventually disappoint yourself no matter who/what you're looking at. If you look at it from a "wow! We're selling a freaking ton of these and making a lot of money to boot!" Perspective, it's less disappointing.



Some notes to keep in mind with the Surface: Sales were absolutely dismal. Now we're at a point where we're bragging about the iPad outselling the Surface. Translation: The Surface has come a LOOOOOOONG way since the RT/SP2 days. Sales of the Surface really started to pick up with the SP3 - and have been doing well enough to start being compared to iPad Sales (whereas before they weren't in the same ballpark).

I'm going to single out the Surface Pro 3/4 because I think they're amazing devices. Where the Surface Pro is concerned, I would hardly call the book closed on 2-in-1s (not to say there's anything negative about the SP...). You are correct, though, that they are beginning to bud.

The best explanation I've heard was when somebody said:
"The Surface Pro is a laptop that's trying to be a tablet, but doesn't do a very good job of being a tablet. The iPad Pro is a tablet trying to be a laptop, but doesn't do a very good job of being a laptop." (Paraphrasing)


I've said the same thing myself here a few times now. Having used both I really do feel that the Surface is a good laptop doing a bad job as a tablet. The iPad Pro is, well, more or less the exact opposite.

But, as no-one will probably be surprised to hear, I much prefer using the iPad (any of them) but in particular the Pro. As a tablet Apple have basically nailed the user interface and features. They could make some improvements to things like file handling now that the 12.9" and to a lesser extent (in my eyes, ymmv) the 9.7" Pros have opened up more options for productivity. And I have very little doubt that iOS 10 will offer some of those improvements, we'll find out next month.

But I've genuinely, although I've tried, never been productive on an iPad and bar the 9.7" Pro I've had them all. But with the 12.9" they finally gave me a screen size that made things like split-view useable. A keyboard size that I didn't feel was too small and cramped for me. And the Pencil, oh the Pencil, how do I love thee, let me count the ways. 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi, 4 Mississippi.... you get the idea, yes my pain medication has kicked in and I'm a rambling on :D

But to make a very long story short, with the 12.9" Pro I've never been so productive on ANY mobile device, including my laptops. That's in no small part due to the Pencil, yes I can do all of the normal productivity things I'd do on my MacBook or Mac, but the Pencil has given me such precise control on the iPad when I'm writing, sketching or working on vector art for my apps that it's a whole new level.

The iPad may have it's haters and yeah it's a pain sometimes working around the filesystem (but crucially, I can work around it) but to me it's opened up a lot of possibilities and iv never been so happy to have spent a ton of money on a bit of tech.


.... I'll shut up now :D
 
The last week I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 which I just bought only about 2/3 months ago and I definitely enjoy using my iPad all the time and the iPad Air 2 is my main computer and replaced/ditched my laptop and I think iPad is the best tablet out there ahead of Microsoft with there Surface pro series tablets and high end Android tablets from Samsung and Google. :) :)

I know this is very stupid and very silly reason to sell my iPad but due to reports recently that the tablet market(including the iPad) in general is dying(because of the sales is down) and the interest and usage of using tablets like the iPad is going down because people are using there phablets and going back to there laptops or using a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead of a tablet like the iPad and a Android tablet so that's means one thing that in the future there is a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future.

So I am thinking of selling my iPad Air 2 because of that and get a Windows 2/1 hybrid instead but I don't really want use a Windows 2/1 hybrid tablet because they are bigger and more heavy and the OS Windows definitely is not touch friendly, there is not many apps that are touch friendly and required a mouse to navigate properly and Windows 2/1 hybrid tablets make not so good as tablets compared to the iPad and Android tablets.

With all that being said I definitely don't want the tablet market to be ignored in the future just like the netbook market couple years ago and I just love tablets(I don't like laptops) especially with a touch friendly OS like IOS on the iPad!! :)

And the thought of the tablet market maybe being ignored in the future makes me sad!! :( :(


So iPad users, Should I sell my iPad because of a big possibility of the tablet market ignored in the future??? And do you think the tablet market will be ignored/dead in the future because of phablets and Windows 2/1 hybrids?? And what is the future of tablets??

Yes, by all means, sell it. And sell your Mac (if you have one) or your PC (if you have one), as well. And sell your car (if you have one) and your house (if you have one), because they are all going away. In the very near future, so act quickly, because the sky is falling.
 
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Yes, by all means, sell it. And sell your Mac (if you have one) or your PC (if you have one), as well. And sell your car (if you have one) and your house (if you have one), because they are all going away. In the very near future, so act quickly, because the sky is falling.

The sky is falling? I ***** knew it. Foggy my foot, I don't give a damn what the weather man says, we're all bloody doome... Hold on its cleard up again.

Rejoice, the sky is rising again, the soothsayer be damned we're all going to be fine. Buy many Apple products, enrich your life with.... Jesus I can blather some this site is missing a poop emoji
 
no, now is the time to get a tablet, because you can actually produce stuff with them- finally!!! you can edit RAW photos, take notes, write a paper, do a painting, edit a movie and you can kill time with gaming or social media. this is just what i do one mine- what do you want to do?

ive had every brand, they are all really good now! the differences are minute. dont stress.
 
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