Should there be a " Fat tax " otherwise known as a " Junk Food tax "?

Should there be a tax on bad food?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 43.1%
  • No

    Votes: 32 44.4%
  • Only on overweight people

    Votes: 6 8.3%
  • Only on fast food

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • Total voters
    72

G51989

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tax

A fat tax aims to decrease the consumption of foods that are linked to obesity. A related idea is to tax foods that are linked to increased risk of coronary heart disease. Numerous studies suggest that as the price of a food decreases, individuals get fatter.[2][3][4] In fact, eating behavior may be more responsive to price increases than to nutritional education.[5] Estimates suggest that a 1 cent per ounce tax on sugar-sweetened beverages may reduce the consumption of those beverages by 25%.[6] However, there is also evidence that obese individuals are less responsive to changes in the price of food than normal-weight individuals.[7]
Should there be an extra tax on junk food and fast food?

I think yes.

Should there be a tax on people just for being overweight? I think no.
 

zin

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If you increase taxes on unhealthy foods then at least cut taxes in some way on healthy foods. I'm not sure how this kind of thing would work in places like the UK where healthy foods are already zero-rated on VAT (0% tax), and things like confectionery are taxed.

Not a fan of taxes, there should be no income tax at all IMHO
What do you plan to cut in government services in order for this to happen?
 

Meister

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The rulers abusing taxes to coerce their subjects into "right" behaviour.

That seems to sound like a good idea to a lot of people nowadays. Sad times ...
 

jkcerda

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If you increase taxes on unhealthy foods then at least cut taxes in some way on healthy foods. I'm not sure how this kind of thing would work in places like the UK where healthy foods are already zero-rated on VAT (0% tax), and things like confectionery are taxed.



What do you plan to cut in government services in order for this to happen?
End the wars
 

The Doctor11

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Hell no! I eat what I want. The government should not tell me I shouldn't do that then charge me more the what I want. When the government looks at a country's health they should say to themselves "I'm going to leave that the **** alone. Maybe I will just promote exercise or some **** but other then that its not my problem."
 

zin

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The rulers abusing taxes to coerce their subjects into "right" behaviour.

That seems to sound like a good idea to a lot of people nowadays. Sad times ...
How exactly is a modest "fat tax" forcing somebody to do something against their will? It's not like a 5% "fat tax" on unhealthy foods would make people go broke. They could still make the free choice to buy the candy or not.

It certainly is sad times when people need a nudge in the right direction towards the healthier option.
 

noodlemanc

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It certainly is sad times when people need a nudge in the right direction towards the healthier option.
That's a scary mindset that a lot of people have nowadays: "I know what's best for everyone, so my opinion should be forced down everyone's throats. Laws! Taxes! Lets write some more bills for the country that has the most laws out of any nation of the history of the planet -- just a few more and we'll perfect this near perfect society :D"
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Human beings are naturally destructive and unfortunately we need to be told what to do and given guidance and restrictions even if we don't always welcome it. Some people will eat themselves into an early grave and some may say it is their right to do so, but its the social and financial cost this brings that affects in the wider scale.

Yes there should be a tax on junk food in my opinion much like there is on alcohol.
 

noodlemanc

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Human beings are naturally destructive and unfortunately we need to be told what to do and given guidance and restrictions even if we don't always welcome it. Some people will eat themselves into an early grave and some may say it is their right to do so, but its the social and financial cost this brings that affects in the wider scale.

Yes there should be a tax on junk food in my opinion much like there is on alcohol.
Okay... so what makes the people in government different to this? Oh, wait...
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Okay... so what makes the people in government different to this? Oh, wait...
I wasn't arguing the people in government were any different. They are human beings too after all and we once had a morbidly obese deputy Prime Minister i.e John Prescott. ;)

Decisions on food tax wouldn't be made by an individual, well not in the same way a fatty decides on their own to stroll into McDonalds lol.
 

Sun Baked

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Hard to tell if we are lemmings headed toward making the movie Idiocracy come true, or strait toward making pot legal in every state while making candy bars illegal.

You have been declared chubby and must now submit to 6 months in fat camp.

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Of course making sugar a dangerous substance would free up a lot of it for conversion to alcohol for our cars.
 

VI™

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Well, unfortunately as it currently stands there would have to be a massive "fat tax" to deter people from eating unhealthy foods. To fix a healthy meal, it's so much more expensive than to go to the McDonalds menu and purchase 5 items off the dollar menu. For under $15 I can get enough Chinese food to eat off of for probably 3 entire days if I eat a correct portion size and don't just go all glutton on it.

Fresh fruit, veggies, and even just regular meat are expensive. Me and the girlfriend were looking at bags of shrimp the other day at the grocery store and a 2lb bag of frozen shrimp is nearly $30! That's outrageous. But even then, making a salad is so much more expensive that just getting two double cheese burgers.

Ramen noodles? $.10 a pack and they're very unhealthy. Well, at least the instant ramen are.
 

Meister

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Helped what?
it helped with the "alcohol problem". Just like the war on drugs solved the "drug problem", the war on terror solved the "terrorism problem" and of course the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan turned those places into heaven on earth.

You seem to forget what the US constitution says:
"Do as you are told or **** you!"
 

SwiftLives

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I'd support it only if 100% of the taxes collected from this tax go toward health and wellness programs. And existing funding for healthcare is not replaced, but supplemented by this tax.

I think a better solution would be subsidies for healthier food to make purchasing it available to more people and to expand availability.
 

Premium1

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No because it won't deter people from buying will just be another source of revenue that is wasted on some program by the government

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Human beings are naturally destructive and unfortunately we need to be told what to do and given guidance and restrictions even if we don't always welcome it. Some people will eat themselves into an early grave and some may say it is their right to do so, but its the social and financial cost this brings that affects in the wider scale.



Yes there should be a tax on junk food in my opinion much like there is on alcohol.

Yeah how's that working for those "healthy lunches in schools" let people eat and do what they want. I eat junk food but I work out frequently, who are you to tell me what I can and can't eat? Plus we have obamacare to pay for everyone anyway so whys it matter anymore? Like with everything else people will find a way to get it
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Unhealthy diet is responsible for the most health conditions and deaths, even over cigarettes. So if they can put hefty taxes on ciggs, I don't see why taxes on foods that are qualified as unhealthy shouldn't be taxed extra.

I think a great start would be taxing foods with excessive sugar and/or salt.
 

Meister

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So if they can put hefty taxes on ciggs, I don't see why taxes on foods that are qualified as unhealthy shouldn't be taxed extra.
I think a great start would be taxing foods with excessive sugar and/or salt.
Yes and foods that are "unhealthy" should be put on a list by the new "Department of Homeland Nutrition".
We could call them "unfoods". :D

Remember: "Unfoods are unsocial and a great risk to society. Support the war on unfoods now!"
 

rdowns

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I don't think we need to tax unhealthy food. Simply rename junk foods to French something and rename healthy food Freedom something. We could have labels on healthy food stating it was made in a certified 'Murican factory with no illegal aliens working there. To cut down on soda intake, rename spring water Liberal Tears. Forget gluten free, replace it with We pay our women workers 77% of what we pay men. The possibilities are endless.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Yes and foods that are "unhealthy" should be put on a list by the new "Department of Homeland Nutrition".
We could call them "unfoods". :D

Remember: "Unfoods are unsocial and a great risk to society. Support the war on unfoods now!"
Your sarcasm is right. Plenty of junk foods are not actually real foods. Just a bunch of artificial crap that's edible. Unfoods is a pretty accurate description