"Sign in with Apple"

[Deguello]

I don't see a more appropriate forum, so if there is one, I apologize.

Anyway, I used "Sign in with Apple" to sign up for an app on my iOS devices. I used "Hide My Identity" and I was signed up and signed in with a random applerelay.com email address. Works fine. No problem so far.

This app also has a website. This website does not offer "Sign in with Apple." I have no idea what, if any, password is associated with my anonymized email address. It's not in Passwords in iCloud. Bottom line, I have no way of signing on to the website. Am I hosed from ever being able to use the website because I didn't check to see whether the website also supported "Sign in with Apple"? I mean possibly -- and I'm not willing to try blindly -- I could try to reset the password for the email address but, even if that worked, I don't know that it would flow back to my iOS device and keep my signed in there.

Anyone run into this before? Any ideas other than hoping for tech support from the dev over a holiday weekend?

Thanks...

 

[Wando64]

Interesting. Following as I am interested in the answers.

I would probably try to request a password change and see what happens.
Worst case scenario you can probably start from scratch with either your real email address or one created with hide my email.

 

[Deguello]

It’s a language app. I really don’t want to start from scratch.

My concern is that even if I requested a password change via the website, I have no way (that I know of) to propagate that change to the iOS devices. I don’t want to get effectively locked out of the apps in exchange for getting in to the website. Without a way to be sure both are in sync, breaking the app login wouldn‘t be worth it.

 

[boillatl]

Hi
i have kind of the same problem...I've checked in an app (with app purchase on my iPad) with Sign In with Apple and now I want to use the same app with the same subscription on my second iPad...is there a way to do that ? my subscription allows me to share my account with 5 devices.

 

[Phil77354]

Without knowing anything about the specific app it's difficult to offer advice, but it sounds like you are still able to sign in and access the app from your iOS devices, just not from a MacBook or iMac, is that right?

If that is the case then why not sign in (on an iOS device) and then there will be things you can do such as change password or update profile or user preferences. One of those should give you the chance to change your e-mail address and when it sends a confirmation email to you, it will be forwarded by Apple to your real email address, and the link it will contain should give you the ability to update your profile with the account using your correct email address and not the randomly generated one.

Since you do still have full abilities to use the app from your iOS devices there should be something along these lines that will allow you to update your profile with the app and get the email address changed to one that you prefer and that will give you the ability to access the app from its website interface.

 

[Lihp8270]

Have you contacted the developers?

 

[Deguello]

Have you contacted the developers?

“Any ideas other than hoping for tech support from the dev over a holiday weekend?”

 

[Deguello]

If that is the case then why not sign in (on an iOS device) and then there will be things you can do such as change password or update profile or user preferences. One of those should give you the chance to change your e-mail address and when it sends a confirmation email to you, it will be forwarded by Apple to your real email address, and the link it will contain should give you the ability to update your profile with the account using your correct email address and not the randomly generated one.

I’ve already considered manual changes (“…I'm not willing to try blindly -- I could try to reset the password for the email address but, even if that worked, I don't know that it would flow back to my iOS device and keep my signed in there.”)

The randomly generated email isn’t the problem. And that still doesn’t answer the question whether any password change associated with whatever email address will be propagated back to the “Sign in with Apple“ functionality. I don’t know what that password is or, for that matter, how it is even stored.

What I do not want to do is end up locking myself out of the iOS app because the “Sign in with Apple” credentials don’t get updated with any manual changes.

If there were, or is, some way of viewing the “Sign in with Apple” password, I’d probably be golden on the website. Without that, and without more knowledge, I’m not willing to force a password update without knowing how it will affect “Sign in with Apple.”

 

[Davidalan]

This is from Apple, might be of some help. I believe it’s an with or choice, Sign In with Apple or sign in under the normal ways. Then it’s two different accounts

Manage your apps with Sign in with Apple - Apple Support

When you use Sign in with Apple, you can use your Apple Account to sign in to participating apps and websites from developers other than Apple. Learn how to view and manage the apps that you use with Sign in with Apple.

support.apple.com

 

[Lihp8270]

“Any ideas other than hoping for tech support from the dev over a holiday weekend?”

Oops

 

[Lihp8270]

I just checked a website I use Sign In with Apple on and the password is in my keychain.

I imagine if you do a password request using your randomised email that you will then be able to change it on the site.

That should create a keychain entry then and you can use that to log in via the app

 

[Deguello]

I just checked a website I use Sign In with Apple on and the password is in my keychain.

I imagine if you do a password request using your randomised email that you will then be able to change it on the site.

That should create a keychain entry then and you can use that to log in via the app

This is pretty much where I got to when it came up yesterday. It’s essentially dumping ”Sign in with Apple,” per se, and trading that for an account using an anonymized email address maintained by Apple. It’s not a huge deal, but it undercuts getting rid of so many account credentials to maintain.

It may be the only approach for something that doesn’t support “Sign in with Apple” on all platforms I use.

 

[Deguello]

This is from Apple, might be of some help. I believe it’s an with or choice, Sign In with Apple or sign in under the normal ways. Then it’s two different accounts

Manage your apps with Sign in with Apple - Apple Support

When you use Sign in with Apple, you can use your Apple Account to sign in to participating apps and websites from developers other than Apple. Learn how to view and manage the apps that you use with Sign in with Apple.

support.apple.com

I think you’re probably right. I didn’t know about this way to find out where I’m using “Sign in with Apple“ so at least I learned that no matter what. Thanks.

 

[now i see it]

Apple didn’t think this through. SIWA is not a good solution

 

[Keith Weisshar]

Is it possible to link an Apple ID with an existing Twitter account instead of creating a new Twitter account with Apple ID?

 

[curdy]

Does this help?

 

[ipedro]

Coming in late to this, some developers were peeved that they were forced to offer Sign In with Apple if they offer Facebook log in because they want to continue tracking you – the problem Sign In with Apple is trying to solve.

So, some of those devs added the bare minimum, without offering Sign In with Apple on their sites where most of their customers are. As a result, you can't really use Sign In with Apple with those apps.

Here in Canada, Cineplex did this. They never added it to their site and Sign In With Apple is still hopelessly broken in their app. It constantly fails to login or sign up. I'm sure this is deliberate as it's been years and they haven't fixed it. I wish Apple would exile them from the App Store. I've filed multiple complaints.




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Pinterest STILL does this:

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It didn't stop me from transferring all of my passwords that I could to Sign In with Apple. I simply don't support the apps and services that try to game the system to continue tracking their users.