Slain teens parents remove noose from killer's neck

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/photo/slain-teens-parents-pick-redemption-not-revenge-iran-n83236

    doubt I would be able to do the same.
     
  2. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    That takes a level of forgiveness I don't think I have in me.
     
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    I find it very strange that people that call themselves Christians have a problem with the concept and act of forgiveness.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Look at the two posts above me.
     
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    I'm glad she did it. An eye for an eye only makes the world blind after-all. Good on her.
     
  7. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I don't think this has anything to do with "religion".
     
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    The Country/Government of Iran is based on "religion"..

    The guy asked for "forgiveness". A concept usually associated with "religion".

    The mother removed the noose. In essence "forgiving" him.

    It has everything to do with "religion".
     
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    It's not that they have a problem with it, it's just that they would find it hard to do an act so forgiving as this. Should we all be able to forgive like this? Yes. Will we all? Likely not. I fear sometimes that satisfaction of earthly revenge will often win out over the action of forgiveness.

    So I doubt that they have a problem with forgiveness, but would find it very hard to forgive given the same situation. Now I'm by no means a parent, but I'm betting any parent would be hard pressed to do what these parents did. At this point it becomes "loving your enemy", I mean this guy killed their son, and yet they let him go? That takes a whole lot of love.

    They don't have a problem with it. They are simply reiterating how difficult it would be for anyone to do this. Not many are able to see past the atrocity committed, but these parents did.
     
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    I'd have kicked that chair into the middle of next week. I don't have a religion, so I'm not feeling guilty.
     
  11. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    are you implying that Atheist don't understand the concept of forgiveness?

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    Thank you.:)
     
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    Not for nothing, but not believing in religion doesn't equate to not understanding the concepts of religion.

    BL.
     
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    I understand that, that is why I am asking him to clear up what he means.
     
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    When have I ever in my short history on PRSI claim to be a Christian? Bite your tongue. I'm an evangelical atheist.

    As an atheist, I definitely support the death penalty.
     
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    Funny, as an atheist, I am definitely against the death penalty in all circumstances.
     
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    I don't blame you, and I completely understand why.
     
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    LOL ...... I'm with you on that.
     
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    Nice move. I think it makes all the difference if you've grown up in a country like Iran that has the death penalty and are accustomed to the practice or not, especially when it comes to watching or even participating in the execution. I can't even imagine witnessing an execution as I imagine it to be a traumatizing event, I don't believe in "reward (or 'equalization'(?)) by revenge". But I can imagine the pressure and emotions that the family went through here and it certainly must have been a very hard decision.
     
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    Sorry. My mistake.

    You understand why another person is against the death penalty yet you don't understand why the mother took the noose off.

    Please explain this to me since I don't seem to understand.
     
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    What would Jesus say?
     
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    It would be very hard but I think I would try to forgive but cannot confirm as I have never been in a similar situation and probably never will.

    But I'm also against death penalty but then again my beliefs would be different growing up in Iran most likely...
     
  22. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    My brother? No idea.
     
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    When did I say I don't understand why the mother took the noose off? All I'm saying is that I completely understand why someone would be against the death penalty, but I happen to disagree with them. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because I hold one view, doesn't mean that I can't understand the mentality of the opposing view.
     
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    I don't know that I could do differently. But I also don't see how killing someone demonstrates how wrong it is to kill someone.
     
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    Would have removed the noose and shot him myself.
     

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