Sleeping a MBP instead of shutting it down shortens it's life - Myth or Fact?

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  1. mrsir2009 macrumors 604

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    Hey there!,

    So many people say that leaving a MacBook Pro (or any other computer for that matter) on sleep when your not using it instead of turning it off wears it out and shortens it's life :rolleyes:

    What are your thoughts on this? Do you sleep or shut down your MBP?
     
  2. alust2013 macrumors 601

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    How would it wear it out? the only thing that is powered is the light and the RAM. Nothing moving or anything. I sleep mine during the day, shut down at night though, just because it's what I have been doing with my computers for the past 13 years or so
     
  3. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Same here. On school days I shut it down when I go to school and at night, and on non-school days I only shut it down at night :D
     
  4. scottness macrumors 65816

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    I sleep and only shut down once every couple weeks or so. Never had a problem.
     
  5. MauriceMoss macrumors member

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    I had a 17" iMac G4 (the googly headed one - some people call it the "lamp shade") that I rarely ever turned off. I bought it in late 2004 or early 2005 I think. I only ever powered it down to move it, or if we were going out of town for a couple of days or more.

    I just sold that computer about six months ago for 500 bucks. It was running perfectly. I never noticed any kind of slow down on it. I would say that it spent about 85% of its life in my house in the on or sleep modes. It was a good computer... I was sad to see it go. It was a fun design.
     
  6. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Or updates or crashes ;)
     
  7. MrCheeto macrumors 68030

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    I get annoyed when I have to shut it down or restart it.

    I keep it running or sleeping whenever possible. Screw Steve Ballmer.
     
  8. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Yeah, they were neat computers :D BTW, if you still use pre-intel macs, i have a forum on classic macs, if your interested: classicmac.freeforums.org
     
  9. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    I only shutdown our MacBook when I have to due to slow down. Otherwise it's a lot more convenient to sleep it all the time. It's just so easy to slap the lid shut, then open it to use it.

    LOL! I'm not completely sure what you're referring too but it reminds me of one of the reasons I hate Windows. Unless 7 changed this Microsoft don't know how to get Windows to sleep properly. Sleeping Windows on a laptop is a pain in the neck.
     
  10. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Yeh, and I leave programs like Blender and Firefox open too, so I can come back to what I was doing ;)
     
  11. elpmas macrumors 68000

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    I believe it's true...lol. I sleep my MBP a lot...and my battery health is freaking horrible...91%. I don't plug and unplug it, I allow it to fully charge before disconnecting. I calibrate the battery once or twice a month. What am I doing wrong...?
     
  12. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Well I reckon you should at least turn it off at night... Do you?
     
  13. Ca$hflow macrumors 6502

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    Shutting down shortens life

    I never shut mine down. When not in use it sleeps.

    The truth of the matter is what harms electronic parts is the constant temperature rise and fall of the part. Energizing and de-energizing a component constantly is what caused circuitry to fail. These macs drop down in voltage when they go to sleep therefore creating a gradual decrease in temperature.

    Guys that are encoding video would run into that more thou. I'm sure apple use quality parts too which makes a difference in the parts resistance to temperature changes. Only problem I had in terms of a failure aside from moving components would be the G4 logic board in 2005.
     
  14. MauriceMoss macrumors member

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    I also had an iBook G4 That I sold about three months ago. It was part of the battery recall. I never gave them my old battery back with it so I always had two. I left it plugged into the charger most of the time. (more of a couch surfing computer.)

    Obviously, because it was a laptop, I did take it places but it spent a lot of time just plugged in. Even if it was fully charged, I kept it plugged in. When I sold it a while back, both batteries were still getting about 3-4 hours of charge on them. I always thought that was pretty good.

    Again, I would say that it spent most of its life around here in the sleep or on position, and most of that time it was always being fed power from the wall.
     
  15. DesmoPilot macrumors 65816

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    Only ever shutdown when I'm going away for more than 3 or so days. Don't see the point in using shut down every day/night.
     
  16. Nugget macrumors 65816

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    Even if this is true, the impact pales in comparison to obsolescence due to the merciless pace of technology. If you buy a brand new, top of the line laptop today I guarantee it'll be embarrassingly slow and a total pain in the ass to use long before you can kill it by sleeping it instead of shutting it down.

    Computers become useless a lot sooner than they become dead. Seems like a pointless concern to me.
     
  17. Ca$hflow macrumors 6502

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    I have a iMac 4,1 bought in early 2006 and runs like a champ. I don't see it as embarrassingly slow and a total pain in the ass. Use it daily and it's our media Center and hooked up to our theatre system.
     
  18. Nugget macrumors 65816

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    Has it died yet because you sleep it instead of shutting it off?
     
  19. Bankaimadness macrumors 6502

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    How long did you have your mbp for?
     
  20. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    How much do you run on battery?
    From: Apple Notebook Battery FAQ

    Complete fiction.
    Searching the forum with MRoogle will usually find answers to most of your questions:

    Better to sleep or shutdown?
    Shut Down or Sleep???
    Do you shut down your Macbook Pro when you are not using it?
     
  21. Timur macrumors 6502a

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    Sleeping draws up to 3W, so when you do it on battery it will get drained/used and thus worn.

    No problem sleeping the W7 laptop of my wife btw, she's doing it all the time.
     
  22. stankuo macrumors newbie

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    Do you shutdown/restart after running ram intensive apps? ie. Starcraft 2
     
  23. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    No need to in Mac OS X, since it manages RAM better than Windows.
     
  24. stankuo macrumors newbie

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    Oh I didn't know that. Thank you.
     
  25. mrsir2009 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Hmm, has anyone considored that the shutting down and starting up process might wear the computer out more than just sleeping it? :eek:
     

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