So are the new i5 airs going to be as brilliantly powerful as the pro?or UVL Rubbish

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by darrellishere, May 30, 2011.

  1. darrellishere macrumors 6502

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    I tested the macbook airs in store with the stock aperture install and stock raw images ,and it tock about 2 mins to load the 33mega pixel image. and was even slower with simple edits like highlights.

    Then i did the same on the macbook pro 13, and the image loaded like it had an ssd in it, and adjustments were as smooth as butter!

    Will the i5 Airs perform like this or will the uvl chips although being i5 still cripple it, essentially?

    Thanks Im interested to see if anybody knows YET! :)
     
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  3. alust2013 macrumors 601

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    They will certainly be more powerful than the current air, but not as powerful as the 13" MBP.
     
  4. PraisiX-windows macrumors regular

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    I think you better go down there again and check when they new one is out.

    Could it be that they was using a smaller file on the macbook pro? - That would certainly be a good way to con people into thinking it was faster (Albeit it probably is faster.. LOL).
     
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    Depends on how much memory is installed on the default configuration. I hope they up it to 4GB
     
  6. darrellishere thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Each machine is like a clone, with the same install and photo library.

    Granted these were huge full frame digital images. Double what I use, 12 vs 33mega pixel RAW images.

    The 2ghz ULV core2duo is no where near the performance of a 4 year old core2 duo. So Im worried the same is going to apply to the i5 uvl.

    If only they increased the resolution of the macbook pro's or brought out the thiner macbook pro model. God dam it apple!

    One thing the pro has is really nice screen /colours even though its noticeably lower res.

    Might go back to the pro brick or just keep my 11" and forget about the 13" Air :(
     
  7. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Err ULV chips aren't crappy ... Core 2 Duo chips are crappy.
     
  8. thunng8 macrumors 6502a

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    The low voltage Core 2 Duo is actually faster than a 4 year old Core 2 Duo (if they are running at the same frequency). It has a larger L2 cache and faster memory and front side bus. Like I said, the test you did was most likely memory limited since the Air in its default configuration only has 2GB.
     
  9. darrellishere, May 30, 2011
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    darrellishere thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well I was only editing one image. All other apps were closed down! My 3 year old 2.0ghz core2duo white 2009 mac mini, didn't have a problem adjusting raw images smoothly!

    Yes after about an hours editing the 4g of ram I had at the time started to slow everything to a crawl but the difference is obvious to me. That endless 'Loading' while Aperture and the slow cpu churn through the
    data.

    Dont get me wrong, I also had the revision B 1.6 macbook air for 2 years and currently have the 11" and have always made them work as light editing machines or to just brows my library over wifi.

    I just hope these new chips are revolutionary and everything everyone is expecting them to be and not just hype, surrounding the i5 & i7 branding!

    For anything processor intensive, the current gen are too "1st and second gen Macbook Air-y" :)

    PS
    We could see a 50% performance increase? For example dose that mean, images hypothetically that would take 5 seconds to open, would open in 2.5 secs. Doesn't sound that impressive,if you know what I mean ;)
     
  10. neko girl macrumors 6502a

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    I use an MBA for work, and I've noticed it slow down on some Powerpoints while in Parallels. Otherwise it doesn't slow down much, but when it does it can be noticeable.

    You definitely get a feeling of a horsepower limitation with these things sometimes..

    Calling them underpowered is a ridiculous exaggeration.
     
  11. thunng8 macrumors 6502a

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    Did you get what I wrote? The very slow performance is not because of the slow CPU, it is because of the limited memory. The default configuration only has 2GB of RAM.

    CPU wise, the 1.86Ghz core 2 Duo in the 13" Macbook Air should be slightly faster than the 2GHz Core2Duo is your Mac mini due to the L2 cache being 2X larger.

    e.g. the 2.13Ghz Core 2 Duo in the highend 13" macbook air is neck and neck with the 2.4Ghz Core2 duo is the macbook pro:

    http://www.barefeats.com/mbpp29.html

    As for the Sandy Bridge LV/ULV chips .. yes, it should be at least 50% faster than the core2duo in your mac mini
     
  12. alust2013 macrumors 601

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    I'm going to say calling the pro a brick is an exaggeration. It's less than an inch thick, has standard voltage mobile components (even higher TDP with the 15 and 17), and has a 7 hour battery life. That is a wonderful combination of performance and size.
     
  13. darrellishere, May 30, 2011
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    OWW COOL MATE!!!! Because I just bought one! :)

    Its the late 2010 i5, 15" with a matt (Highress screen)!

    And the guy has fitted it with 8gigs of Ram. An Intel 80g ssd with Trim and a 500gb 7200 HD in opti bay :) LoL all for £1099, UK Pounds!

    Well all I can say is I've done the Airs for over 3 years now and its time to get something BIG Beefy!!!

    Im gonna mostly use it on my sofa, so I'm not gonna treck around with it.

    (Well actually! Maybe location shooting for the odd bit of freelance work mmm!).

    Hardly ever took my Airs out, until personal hotspots came along!

    And especially not to load and raw pictures up onto for review and editing!

    Cant wait for 10.7 now and all those full screen app modes, :)

    Might become my primary machine over the i7 imac..
     
  14. DarwinOSX macrumors 65816

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    Correct. Amazing how many people post the opposite here. They could not have checked this out first but just saying what they want to believe I guess.
     
  15. PraisiX-windows macrumors regular

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    First of all, no clue, but 5 seconds down to 2,5 seconds is a 100% increase in speed, so it would only be reduced down to 3,33 seconds if you find 2.5 seconds useless, chances are 3,33 will be that as well.
     
  16. gpat macrumors 6502a

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    it's going to be some brilliantly powerful ULV rubbish :D
     
  17. hcho3 macrumors 68030

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    right....
    Core 2 DUO sucks, but somehow intel HD graphics are not?

    Okay...
     
  18. darrellishere, Jun 3, 2011
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    darrellishere thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well I've been using my new core i5 macbook pro, and it dose deliver when it comes to performance. Buy I am shocked at how rubbish the battery is at anything other than web browsing! So their is something to say for UVL after all, and its all day battery life! Im sitting here typing on my 11" which I still love more than anything and the battery is showing 7 hours! Love it!!!!!
    The macbook pros, also don't have instant on! And you have to pay for the same ssd performance you get in the air. And it boots in double amount of time! And their is no hibernation mode for the battery. This 2010 machine feels so dated! It really reminds me of the G4 powerbook, except it can play flash but not on the Intel graphics though! hehe

    To be honest- if they could make a 15" macbook air, with a decent enough power, I would have found my perfect laptop!! Carrying the Pro to the apple store today felt like i was on a run with the army with a led weight in my backpack and I was thinking what have I done buying this!!! Trigger happy on ebay, I should have waited for the i5 Airs, like I was going too :( ;)
     
  19. stylinexpat macrumors 6502a

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    Well said..
     
  20. darrellishere thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well as you know I opted for a 15" macbook pro, high res, antiglare. Only, the dual core i5 though.

    The way Im trying to see things and not buy the 13" i5 Air!

    Is ill keep this 1 year until the Thinner! Liquid metal! Superdrive-less comes out!

    ;)
     

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