Say i'm somewhere where its just 3G or maybe even EDGE, will this always show 4G, I'm especially curious about the 3G issue.
Say i'm somewhere where its just 3G or maybe even EDGE, will this always show 4G, I'm especially curious about the 3G issue.
The 4G indicator will show when your in a HSPA+ (ie. "4G") area and connected as such.
Before I answer, I'm curious why it matters? Not being snide, just asking. It's just an indicator, and a false one.
The answer would be no. If on EDGE, it shows (at least on my co-worker's phone running 5.1 on AT&T) EDGE. On 3G though, it falsely shows 4G.
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Say i'm somewhere where its just 3G or maybe even EDGE, will this always show 4G, I'm especially curious about the 3G issue.
so if you have the 4g icon, will you get throttled at 5 gigs instead of 3?
This isn't entirely accurate. There are areas where AT&T provides 3G coverage that is not HSPA+. So it's not a situation where you either have EDGE or "4G". There is a middle option, and I would expect that the iPhone would indicate 3G in those areas. However, I haven't traveled around at all since the 5.1 update, so I can't confirm this. I live in an area that is HSPA+, and thus I always see 4G.
No, that's what I was addressing. Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant to point out that even in 3G-only areas, you're falsely shown a 4G indicator.This isn't entirely accurate. There are areas where AT&T provides 3G coverage that is not HSPA+. So it's not a situation where you either have EDGE or "4G". There is a middle option, and I would expect that the iPhone would indicate 3G in those areas. However, I haven't traveled around at all since the 5.1 update, so I can't confirm this. I live in an area that is HSPA+, and thus I always see 4G.
Thank you, thats exactly what I was trying to say, he said it perfect. 3G still exists, so I wanted to know if you're somewhere where there is 3G and no 4G is it still going to show 4G??
No, that's what I was addressing. Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant to point out that even in 3G-only areas, you're falsely shown a 4G indicator.
No, that's what I was addressing. Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant to point out that even in 3G-only areas, you're falsely shown a 4G indicator.
No, not personal experience. It's annecdotal from a co-worker that's not present. Could be wrong.Are you speaking from personal experience here? If so, care to share where this is happening? If what you were saying were true, then we would be seeing the 4G indicator on the iPhone 4 as well, and I've not heard anything of the sort.
No, not personal experience. It's annecdotal from a co-worker that's not present. Could be wrong.
This isn't entirely accurate. There are areas where AT&T provides 3G coverage that is not HSPA+. So it's not a situation where you either have EDGE or "4G". There is a middle option, and I would expect that the iPhone would indicate 3G in those areas. However, I haven't traveled around at all since the 5.1 update, so I can't confirm this. I live in an area that is HSPA+, and thus I always see 4G.
In and around Queens, NY.I would be interested to know what area your co-worker was referring to. If you look at AT&T's coverage viewer, the dark blue areas would show 4G, the light blue would show EDGE, and the medium blue would show 3G.
Differentiating is easy and the 4S can do it. If AT&T is using an HSPA+ radio on a slow tower, it's still technically a 4G signal.Correct. The problem is, AT&T uses the HSPA+ air interface even in 3G areas where the backhaul can only support "3G" speeds, even though the air interface can do "4G" speeds. Note that I put them in quotes, since I still don't believe HSPA+ is 4G. The iPhone seems to not differentiate at all, even though some Android phones have some way of differentiating.
Say i'm somewhere where its just 3G or maybe even EDGE, will this always show 4G, I'm especially curious about the 3G issue.
In and around Queens, NY.