Solution to the tax cuts for liberals

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Herdfan, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Since approximately 43% of the Top 1% identify as liberals*, and since they all seem to hate the Trump tax cut, the simple solution for them is to refuse it. Let the government keep it.

    Doing the math, it turns a $1.5T tax cut into a $855B tax cut. Look at all the money it already created.

    *538 aggregate of 61 polls.
     
  2. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    An even simpler solution would be to develop an actual platform for people to vote on in 2018 and 2020. #resist probably isn't going to be good enough.
     
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    Brilliant! The lefts can keep on attacking tax reform without feeling guilty. The rights feel a bit better at defending a smaller tax cut number. The government only has to work with half of the original deficit. Everybody wins!
     
  5. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    I like the idea of donating it to progressive causes and candidates instead.
     
  6. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    Well, that shouldn't be too hard. Of course, I am assuming the (D)'s can grow-a-pair for once. The unfortunate thing is that the problems are of such that they can't be fixed in a given voting cycle - so it will endlessly be a back-and-forth of either crappy quick-fixes, long-term plans dismembered, or maybe just a long sigh...
     
  7. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    The Democratic Party does seem to have more conviction and confidence.
     
  8. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    My idea of taxes is that people pay what they are supposed to. It’s a concept that’s never been tried thanks to the republicans.
     
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    But the objections are to the loss of SALT deductibility, the repeal of the individual mandate, the fact the individual tax cuts expire after 5 years but the corporate ones are permanent, etc. Paying the government extra taxes won't change any of that, so it wouldn't be much of a protest. To frame this along simpleminded lines of, "If you don't like it, pay extra," misses the entire point.
     
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    And the other 57% of the top 1% that like Trump should voluntarily pay more taxes to support their pet causes instead of tying to get out of paying every penny. Maybe they can pay for the wall. Or to add a few more billion dollar items to the military.
     
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    Looks to be happening from what I can see. 2016 might actually turn out to be the best thing that happened to the Democrats. They are fired up, new blood is coming through, and they're taking a long-overdue look at how complacent they've been.

    Even if they don't take back any part of the federal government I can see them achieving local and state wins all over the place. That's been something they've let slide for far too long, which has allowed the GOP to pull its gerrymandering BS.
     
  12. Herdfan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Same for the GOP. But not likely in either case.
     
  13. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    They seem to be fired up about not liking Trump. If the economy is doing better than it is now then that may not be enough.
     
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    People who want to protest it should fill out two forms when they do their taxes in 2019. One that represents the pre-tax cut rates and one that would be current and legal. Whatever the difference is they can send to the treasury as a separate check. They should even take a picture of the check (I’d recommend blocking out the important info) and post it on social media. #notmytaxcut #payingmyfairshare
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    Who isn’t paying what they are “supposed to”?
     
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    I don't know. Not liking Trump seems to resonate with a hell of a lot of people. What's his approval rating again?
     
  16. SusanK macrumors 68000

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    For those of us in the middle class getting a tax increase where do we apply for that refund?

    Thanks
     
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    Economy isn’t likely to be doing better than excellently.
     
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    They’re supremely confident they’ll be able to use the dislike of Trump to run and win win yet another corporate “third way” democrat and wonder why they’ll get unseated again in the midterms immediately afterwards.
     
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    Are any third way Democratic Party people even in the running for 2020? Aren’t they all fairly left wing?
     
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    Lol if you think Harris or Booker are even remotely left wing...idk what to tell you.

    Aren’t you from the U.K.? If so, shouldn’t you be able to see that even BERNIE is a centrist when it comes to the world stage? America has shifted so far right that even an almost exactly Eisenhower platform (Bernie) is somehow considered “left wing”.
     
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    Still convinced that the $1.5 Trillion would have been better invested in some form of UHC. The poor and Corporations alike would've benefited - and that would certainly help the Economy.
     
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    And fixing our aging infrastructure making it faster to get to work.
     
  23. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    If you think the corporate tax rate is the effective rate, it’s not. I’m all for a low corporate tax rate where companies pay what the rate is supposed to be, and closing of loopholes. Trump and the republicans essentially lowered the rate for anyone who pays the effective rate, and actually wrote loopholes into law, so they aren’t even loopholes anymore, they are legal means to avoid paying the rate.

    A really dumb thing to do when you’re simultaneously bragging how well the economy is doing.
     
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  25. Herdfan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Seriously, why do you think you will get a tax increase?
     

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