Some Americans Boosted Charitable Giving In Recession; The Rich Did Not

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  1. bradl, Oct 6, 2014
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    If anything, this should come as absolute proof that trickle-down economics simply does not work; when it was needed, it became "it's all about me".

    However, I have to hand it to the Mormons; they have always been giving, and continue to do so.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...aritable-giving-in-recession-the-rich-did-not

    A good quote someone had for this:

    Money has never made man happy, nor will it, there is nothing in its nature to produce happiness. The more of it one has the more one wants. -Benjamin Franklin

    BL.
     
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    mormons are seemingly good peeps, at least the few I have dealt with.
     
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    Just because they "kept it to themselves" doesn't mean it's sitting in a bank account. What if these are people who put more money into their children's college funds or something to help, maybe not them personally, but their immediate family or friends? Do those necessarily get reported in this study?

    Plus, dontating money to charity is just so blasé. If these people actively volunteered and helped in their community in addition to donations, it'd be more impressive.
     
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    I never give a dime to charity. Nothing. Nada. Not a farthing.
     
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    I give to charity every day, it's called taxes.

    And I couldn't care less what the "rich" do with their money, it's theirs.
     
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    Our taxes are paid to fund this country; that has nothing to do with how charitable you can be in helping your fellow man.

    But this does show how uncharitable and uncaring the rich may be.. yet people in this country still tend to idolize them...

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    Uncharitable and uncaring? I guess you missed this part:

    So the total amount given by the rich went up. Plus the fact that the article specifically states that Charities still look to the rich donors belies your conclusions that they are uncaring and ungiving.

    Your disdain for fellow citizens is getting old fast.
     
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    How does respect for those who earn their wealth equate to idolization?
     
  9. Michael Goff, Oct 6, 2014
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    Are you saying all of the rich earned their money?
     
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    And many peoples' disdain for the average and poor citizens got old a long time ago.

    I think "earn" is a bit of a misnomer. Someone who loads pallets onto a truck on a hot summer day "earns" his $12 an hour or whatever. Someone who gets in a ring for half an hour with someone else while they punch each other does not "earn" $32 million in that half an hour. This, of course, is my opinion.
     
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    What don’t you understand about a simple, unambiguous question?
     
  12. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    Because it isn't simple and it's based on incorrect information. I understand the question quite easily, it's saying "we should respect them, they earned their money", as if that's always true.
     
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    Why do you care? It's not your money.
     
  14. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    Wow, defensive.

    He asked a question with a bad premise and I inquired more about the premise. It's as simple as that. If you're going to frame a question in a certain way, be prepared to be questioned about it.
     
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    Well, this speaks more about a society who is willing to pay money to watch a person punch another person than it does to the individual.
     
  16. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    I doubt many here would begrudge a guy for making 32m in 30 minutes. They might begrudge that guy for then saying "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" or "anyone can be rich", but usually not for the money.
     
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    No doubt, I'm certain that many including myself would love to be in that position but society is really acting as the enabler where someone could make that amount of money.
     
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    Yeah, but *how* did it become theirs? In a just or unjust manner?
     
  19. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    I do agree that society as a whole needs to change.
     
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    Define "just" and "unjust".

    I would point out that the OP's original quoted text says "earned". Short of theft or other illegal activities (which I doubt anyone would be reporting to the IRS anyway), how they "earn" it is completely irrelevant.

    The entire article is nothing more than click bait for the progressives to get outraged about. The title is particularly misleading because the rich, as defined in the article, did in fact give MORE in total dollar terms than prior years.
     
  21. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    That's because the rich are becoming richer in America. The gap isn't shrinking.
     
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    And they are giving more to charity! You should be happy!

    Apparently you think there are "right" and "wrong" ways to legally earn an income. Please elaborate, with examples, so I can understand your position.
     
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    I'm not sure I can. But you're explicitly defining "legal" = "just".

    Disagree. When you get to buy the laws that regulate how you "earn", it's completely relevant.
     
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    So even though you cannot define what is just, you believe there are legal but unjust ways of earning income?

    Not sure I follow. Who is buying laws that regulate how you earn?
     
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    Large banks. The very rich.
     

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