Some not so kind words for Bill Gates

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Nothing wrong with another switcher or adder... but a note to add:

    Just because your employer uses Windows, doesn't necessarily mean YOU have to in order to do work at home.

    Your employer MAY use an app that exists only on Windows. But there may very well be a version for Mac, or something compatible. Macs really do get along well with Windows systems these days.

    That writer is, well, a writer... so when she says she needs a PC for her work files, I wonder if she won't soon happily discover that Office exists for Mac :)
  3. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604


    Sep 8, 2002
    The Netherlands
    Well said: "discover".

    So many people out there just have no idea Office exists for the Mac.
    Good for her, though :)
  4. Lacero macrumors 604


    Jan 20, 2005
    How do these people get jobs? Ok, that was a loaded question. :)
  5. winmacguy macrumors 68020


    Nov 8, 2003
    New Zealand
    Agreed. How ever if anyone wants to emil her and let her know that she can use Office for Mac.....
  6. mpw Guest

    Jun 18, 2004
    Like the writer I’m required to use Windows at work and prior to getting my first Mac about 3years ago I’d had Windows PC’s at home for more than 10years.

    In all that time I never lost data that had already been saved to my hard drive a few times I’d lost stuff not yet saved due to crashing.

    I use Apple’s software for a number of reasons it’s easy to use, it seems to have a longevity that Windows doesn’t (hardware), it does everything (that I could reasonably expect from any PC) I want out of the box, it looks and ‘feels’ fantastic but most importantly once I’d added up the cost of a Windows box that matched my expectations of my Mac it was good value.

    As far as compatibility I really don’t experience any problems other than websites that aren’t written for use with Mac’s (like Disney’s?). But this means I’m not compatible with the Windows user who created the site not the soft or hardware that was used.

    On the subject of cost of ownership other than the software that came with my Mac the only extra software I’ve ‘needed’ to load has been Office v.X. It’s so slow that it’s only used for Excel spreadsheets and to format work done in TextEdit to send as the essential .doc format. Here’s hoping for a ‘Number’ in iWork 2.
  7. ZipZilla macrumors regular

    Dec 7, 2003
    I think one of the biggest selling points for the Mac that Apple overlooks in their advertising is:

    No adware

    No keyloggers

    No viruses

    No trojan horses

    No spyware

    No e-mail attachments bringing down your computer

    Macs really are bullet-proof security-wise....
  8. Alukardo macrumors newbie

    Jan 10, 2005
    I, for one, am somewhat glad that Apple doesn't advertise that aspect too much, because the more they hype it, the more likely it is virus writers will produce a few nasty suprises for us, if only to spite the Mac community.

    Add the fact that very few Mac users actually use AV software, a Mac virus could do a fair deal of damage...
  9. Bendit macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    I can understand why not. Yes those are great reasons to enjoy a Macintosh these days it's now the reason they want to market. It's true now but it won't be forever. If they do advertise that, they will become popular and they WILL have viruses and trojans. Advertising that would be a guarantee, and it's clearly not.

    They don't want to sell their product on the fact that "well windows is affected by this and we aren't" It's just not apple's style. Less the journalists make empty promises of a virus free future on a Mac.
  10. Yvan256 macrumors 601

    Jul 5, 2004
    This is FAR from being a mere "Mac vs Windows" problem. The fact is, not everyone on Windows is free from this problem either. A lot of people are dropping Microsoft Internet Explorer and switching to either FireFox or Opera (and other obscure browsers), and we do encounter these stupid "made for MSIE" websites.

    Luckily for me, even my bank's website works 100% fine with Opera, so does eBay, PayPal, macrumors, slashdot, etc.

    For the very rare websites that won't work with Opera (even when I tell Opera to lie and tell the website "yes, I am MSIE"), I use FireFox.

    More and more people are dropping MSIE, so we're all more likely to see these "websites compatibility" problems dissapear gradually.


    Your location says "Jersey (NOT New Jersey)"...

    You live in Old Jersey? :D
  11. Sharewaredemon macrumors 68000


    May 31, 2004
    Cape Breton Island
    I think I will do just that.
  12. redAPPLE macrumors 68030


    May 7, 2002
    2 Much Infinite Loops
    please do not hijack this thread, with statements like these. this has been chewed on, spitted out and swallowed back again.

    now back to the topic. i would write her an email and inform her about the mac platform.

    and i would inform her that there are people (e.g. in who would gladly help her out if she got questions.
  13. Yvan256 macrumors 601

    Jul 5, 2004
    OS X isn't immune to adware, keyloggers, viruses, trojans, spyware. However, e-mail attachments aren't run automatically (how can attachments run simply by reading an e-mail in outlook is beyond me), and viruses/trojans/spyware/adware/keyloggers can't be installed simply by being connected to the internet (how such things happen on windows is also beyond me).

    Nothing will prevent your average user from installing a program he received from an e-mail, and that includes viruses, trojans, keyloggers, adware and spyware. Unless this user happens to have an account that limits what he can install/run on the computer.

    Yes, OS X is a whole lot safer than Windows, but it's far from bullet-proof.
  14. brap macrumors 68000

    May 10, 2004
    New England... New Hampshire... New York (New Amsterdam)... all these guys exist in the 'old' world - it seems our ancestors were fairly unimaginitive!

    What makes you think New Jersey is any different?
  15. Bad Beaver macrumors regular

    Nov 27, 2003
    Ok, you may consider .doc essential, I consider it offensive. :rolleyes:

    I used to tell people sending me .doc where they stored the file on their winbox, and sometimes what had been written, saved, and then deleted in the document before it was finished. That ususally helped. Seriosly, I have no idea why in the world anyone would use that pile of crap of a format unless he or she is too inadept to find the "save as" chooser. It comes down to "I have no idea what I am doing at the magical machine", as it does so very often. :(
  16. outerspaceapple macrumors regular


    May 23, 2004
    Minnetonka, MN USA
    hah, i think the beaver hit the nail on its head.
  17. Bad Beaver macrumors regular

    Nov 27, 2003
    It's a sad insight, isn't it?
  18. mrsebastian macrumors 6502a


    Nov 26, 2002
    sunny san diego
    it still amazes me how hard people resist switching?! i've had conversations with people who want a mac so bad, for the gorgeous design and ease of use, and safety of data. of course i try to covert them, but they resist. we go through everything like compatibility, price comparison, etc., and they nod their head in agreement. there is no reason to continue this kind of suffering, pc users, stop it! i swear that m$ is like crack or meth and bill gates is the most successful drug dealer of all time. for those that would say, "but this program or this website won't work on a mac?!" i have two words for you: virtual pc. "well i can't use a mac 'cause everyone else is on pc". that's just stupidity and makes me think of some wise words my mom said to me when i was 4 years old, "if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you?"
  19. winmacguy macrumors 68020


    Nov 8, 2003
    New Zealand
    Good, because I did the same thing earlier.
  20. ruud macrumors regular

    Jul 1, 2004
    It's called a buffer overflow exploit, and it could happen in any other operating system as well.
  21. JDOG_ macrumors 6502a


    Nov 19, 2003
    I don't know, as somebody whose been involved in publications for about four years I found this article barely readable. Ultimately she lacks the point about what she's going to do about it or an alternative. To me it just reads like some of the general propaganda on the Apple "News" page.

    I switched a year ago and sometimes think about running both platforms to fulfill different needs, but on trips to my parents house or friends computers I'm reminded how much Windows generally sucks within minutes of navigating around trying to find something.
  22. Ms.Whoo macrumors newbie

    Jan 23, 2005
    I would disagree...but then again I am the author... :D

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