Some of my thoughts on buying RAM from apple rather than a 3rd party.

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by omfgninja, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. omfgninja macrumors member

    Aug 9, 2006
    Honestly. This might sound kinda weird.... But I think it might be smarter to go with Apple if your gunna buy extra RAM, even though there is a price difference.

    Heres what im thinking. The Mac Pro is being advertised as the most upgradeable and powerful mac ever. And this is quite evident, since there have never been this many options when it comes to your Mac.
    Thing is tho, Compare the later model G5 cooling to the cooling on the Mac Pro. The Mac Pro is like downright passive. Quite a bit like the G5s of yesterday, they will be getting progressively more and more cooled.

    Its a proven fact that the next generation of Intel server chips will produce alot more heat per chip. And im sure later on, all the other components will produce more and more heat (graphics cards especialy).

    Apple, being the smart people they are, have anticipated this far in advance, and I think, have designed the Mac Pros new case, to have a low heat baseline for the Rev A stuff. So that when the gen of chips come out, with all thouse extra cores, the Macs cooling will be easily upgraded to go along with that extra heat.

    After seeing several memory companies pull thier RAM a couple days after the Mac Pro came out, it made me think.

    What if alot of the RAM coming out for the Rev A macs will be cooled enough for thier normal use, but might not be sufficent when the next Rev of Intel chips come out?
    I think maybe Apple gave these other companies a heads up and told them that while the heat requirements for this Gen of RAM might be good enough for the original baseline rev A Mac Pro, it might not be good enough for when people start upgrading them to next generation of Intel Chips.

    Of course, if this RAM wasnt rated for next Rev, this might cause alot of problems for people who buy 3rd party RAM now, and are still under warrenty, but are not able to upgrade thier CPUs since first generation of this RAM cant disipate the heat fast enough.

    What do you all think?
    Maybe its worth investing a few extra (well, hundred extra) dollars into future-proofing your RAM. Thoughts?
  2. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    1. if u buy a mac pro, u shouldnt be thinking about next gen CPU, its not realistic and not important coz u won't be using it.
    2. apple already control many things, if we have to buy everything from apple with a higher price, they will only ignore our voice more and more, look at the problem MacBook has right now, it should be voiced that apple shouldnt be in a "control everything position"
    3. I don't think apple produce ram themselves, and i dont see the difference between the rams sold from apple or 3rd party companies.
  3. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

    Jan 6, 2004
    apple doesn't make the RAM themselves. which is why they charge such a high premium for it, they just want to make money off of the sale.

    there really is no reason to buy RAM from apple if you ask me.
    3rd party vendors just need to test their products before selling them, which is probably why they were pulled. don't want to offer a lifetime warranty on something you don't know is going to work, right? :rolleyes:
  4. furious macrumors 65816


    Aug 7, 2006
  5. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    The only reason RAM was pulled (more correctly: not offered for the MacPro) is because nobody had matching RAM. They had the sticks, but not the giant heat sinks. Similar stuff happens every time Apple changes something in the RAM. All the vendors take weeks or even months to catch up. So, if you bought a computer on day one, you are stuck with bleeding edge issues like only Apple as a potential RAM vendor. If you wait a month, options start opening up.

    None of this applies to the other Macs, just the Pro. And, I presume, Xserve. Except that isn't shipping, anyway.
  6. JNaut macrumors member

    Aug 8, 2006
    I installed two 512MB DIMMs from 18004memory and now there is a red light always showing on the bottom riser card. Is that normal? The RAM seems to work... except in Windows where it's not recognized. :p
  7. sirnh macrumors regular

    Aug 16, 2006
    I purchased 2x Kingston 512MB 667 DDR2 FB-DIMMS from memory lab, bringing my system up to 2GB. I have had no problems with this memory, thus far, even after running a memory burn in test for 24 hours. The memory was priced at $125 per DIMM.
  8. fatties macrumors regular

    May 21, 2006
    off topic!

    what is memory burn test? i've been running rember (thats the same as memtest right?) I am adament that I don't have bad ram and the apple shop genius was just trying to fob me off with his 500 quid 2 gigs as replacments. do you think 4 cycles of oks are enough? or should i do it infintely just incase> or a different test>


    oh my 2 cents on apple ram- 500 pounds for 2 gigs seems a bit overpriced... i thought i saw some matched pairs for under 300 (samsung as well!)
  9. sirnh macrumors regular

    Aug 16, 2006
    I actually used Remember for my burn-in test. I ran it for 24 hours straight (it was hard stepping away from my new Mac Pro for so long, even though it meant seeing my girlfriend!).

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