So this thread will probably go south faster than a chubby intern on Bill Clinton (that's for you, Trump supporters) but I'm going to give it a shot. In another thread, we got off topic and started talking about why their has to be a deity. Could the Universe just come into being (or was always here) and, more importantly, could INTELLIGENT life develop "on its own" OR does there have to be a guiding hand. The old if there is a creator who created the creator point came up.... Anyway, thoughts?