Spammers, how dumb they think we are. (See attached SPAM mail)

srobert

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Just received a third flavor of a Spam email I think is really funny. Here is how it went:

From: jamescollins1@virgilio.it
Subject: MAIL FROM MR JAMES COLLINS
Date: November 26, 2004 10:20:20 AM EST

DEAR MR/MA

CONFIDENTIAL

I KNOW THIS WILL COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE BECAUSE YOU
DO NOT KNOW ME .I AM MR JAMES COLLINS, I WORK IN THE
CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA, PACKAGING AND COURIER
DEPARTMENT.
I GOT YOUR CONTACT IN MY SEARCH FOR A HONEST PERSON
THROUGH ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE CENTRAL BANK
WHO SAID THAT I CAN CONFIDE IN YOU .I WANT YOU TO HELP
ME CLEAR THIS PACKAGE THAT IS ALREADY IN OVERSEAS WHICH
I SHIPPED THROUGH OUR CBN ACCREDITED COURIER AGENT BUT
THE CONTENTS OF THE PACKAGE IS $20,000,000.00 ALL IN
$100.00 BILLS, BUT THE COURIER COMPANY DOES NOT KNOW
THAT IT IS MONEY THAT I HAVE IN THE PACKAGE .ALL I
WANT YOU TO DO FOR ME NOW IS THIS GIVE ME

YOUR MAILING ADDRESS
YOUR PRIVATE PHONE AND FAX

AND I HOPE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY , YOU WILL HAVE
30% AND 70% WILL BE FOR ME .MY IDENTITY MUST NOT BE
REVEALED TO ANYBODY. IF THIS ARRANGEMENT IS OKAY BY
YOU ,YOU CAN CALL E-MAIL ME AT jamezcollinz@libero.it, FOR SECURITY REASONS

OTHER MODALITIES WILL BE DISCUSSED AS SOON AS YOU GET
BACK TO ME INCLUDING SENDING OF THE KEYS TO THE BOXES
TO YOU . NOTE: COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE STRICTLY
THROUGH E-MAIL FOR SECURITY REASONS.

YOURS FAITHFULLY,
MR JAMES COLLINS

IMMEDIATELY YOU RECEIVE THIS MAIL AND FEEL THAT YOU WILL ASSIST ME IN THIS
MATTER, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS ON HOW TO GET THE CONSIGNMENT OF MONEY DELIEVER
TO YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR SINCERITY TOWARDS THIS MATTER.

REPLY ME ONLY ON MY PRIVATE EMAIL: jamezcollinz@libero.it
Stupid spammer wrote ALL CAPS.

Last one I received was "from" the widow of some african politician who promised me millions if I would help her into my country. LOL

I wonder how many person replies to these emails and what are the consequences.

:D
 

srobert

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Dang! Have I been flagged or what. One hour later, here is what popped into my inbox.

From: johndickson221@tiscali.no
Subject: WITH TRUST
Date: November 26, 2004 11:18:01 AM EST
To: johndickson221@tiscali.no

From The Desk Of:
Barrister John Dickson,
Principal Partner,
John Dickson& Associates.
36 Fola Agoro Street,
Lagos.
Email:johndickson221@jumpy.it.


Dear Sir,
I am Barrister John Dickson, the Personal Attorney to a Foreign Contractor
who worked with a Multinational Oil Firm in Nigeria. On the 21st of April
1999, my client, his wife And their three children were involved in a car
accident along Sagbama Express Road. All occupants of the vehicle unfortunately
lost there lives.Since then I have made several enquiries to your embassy
to locate any of my clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful.After
these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives over
the Internet, to locate any member of h! is family but of no avail,hence
I contacted you.

I have contacted you to assist me in repartrating the money left
behind by my client before they get confisicated or declared unserviceable
by the Bank where this huge deposits were lodged. Particularly, the Bank
where the deceased had an account valued at about US$15 million dollars
has issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account
confisicated within the next twenthy official working days. since I have
been
unsuccesfull in locating the the relatives for over 4 years now I seek your
consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased so that the proceeds
of this account valued at $15 million dollars can be paid to you and then
you and I can share this money. 70% to me and 25% to you,while 5% should
be for
expenses or tax as your government may require,I have all necessary legal
documents tha! t can be used to back up any claim we may make.All I require
is your honest cooperation to enable us see this deal through.

I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that
will protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in touch with me
via my email as soon as you get this mail to enable us discuss on the
modalities and process for success of this transaction.

I also request for your private telephone number, fax number for easy
and more confidential communication. I await your kind response.

Goodday
and God bless.

Regards,

Barrister John Dickson.
Principal Partner,
John Dickson&Associates.
36 Fola Agoro Street,
Lagos.
Email:johndickson221@jumpy.it.
And that's with maill.app's spam filter on.
 

munkle

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Sad thing is some people actually fall for this type of stuff. I remember an old article a while back where a guy actually decided to write back and got into a correspondence with one of these scammers - quite funny! Although my favourite is still the P-P-Powerbook scam! :D
 

Sun Baked

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munkle said:
Sad thing is some people actually fall for this type of stuff. I remember an old article a while back where a guy actually decided to write back and got into a correspondence with one of these scammers - quite funny! Although my favourite is still the P-P-Powerbook scam! :D
Yes, his lawyer wouldn't let him release any money unless he paid him the money owed, so the spammer sent him the money to "pay" his lawyer. ;)
 

Don't panic

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having a drink at Milliways

Sun Baked

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You could always write a script to collect the e-mail addresses and spoof a reply to them using another nigerian spammers e-mail address.
 

srobert

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Don't panic said:
btw, did you just purchase/subscribed to something in italy. that seems to be the immediate source of your troubles (or maybe they're usin .it accounts because it's easier for some reasons)
Nope. must be something else.
 

munkle

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Sun Baked said:
Yes, his lawyer wouldn't let him release any money unless he paid him the money owed, so the spammer sent him the money to "pay" his lawyer. ;)
That's classic, a lot better than the one I read!! Maybe you should give it a go srobert, it would be interesting to see what type of reply you get :p
 

jadam

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nono, email other people who spam you with other spammers email address and tell them its your new email.
 

srobert

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I'll create a new email account and give it a try. this could be funny, I'll post here if I get a reply. I'll reply to the second one, I don't want to receive more replies from an "all-capper". ;)

Edit01: Ok, Don Luis Perenna (aka: me) has just sent an email to johndickson221@tiscali.no asking for more details)
 

munkle

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srobert said:
I'll create a new email account and give it a try. this could be funny, I'll post here if I get a reply. I'll reply to the second one, I don't want to receive more replies from an "all-capper". ;)

Edit01: Ok, Don Luis Perenna (aka: me) has just sent an email to johndickson221@tiscali.no asking for more details)
Post the letter for us! This could prove to be interesting ;) :D
 

srobert

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Here is what I wrote the guy trying to sound a little uninformed and gullible:

"Hello Mr. Dickson

I am interested by your proposal but also a little concerned.

Why did you pick me? Am I really going to make money if I help you? I'm not sure I understand everything you wrote. Could you give me the details of what I should do if I want the money? This stuff is legal right? I don'T want no trouble. If I do what you say, I will receive money, then send you a share and keep the rest? Is this going to cost me something? I got a credit card and everything but my credit limit is only $5,000. Will I need a lawyer? That would be expensive.

Thanks

L. Perenna"
 

srobert

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LOL

I googled "Sagbama Express Road" to see if this place really exists in Nigeria. Here are some interesting founds:

http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Nigerian/nigerianex.htm

http://potifos.com/fraud/

http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/Business/nigerian.htm

http://www.scamorama.com/barnabas.html

http://www.internet-fraud.com/fraudforum/DCForumID3/236.html#

and the list goes on.

Looks like the guys trick is getting old. This has been going on for years. Maybe he should refresh his act. Sad thing is it looks like he use real identity of deceased people. Sick bastard.

LOL
 

munkle

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srobert said:
Here is what I wrote the guy trying to sound a little uninformed and gullible:

"Hello Mr. Dickson

I am interested by your proposal but also a little concerned.

Why did you pick me? Am I really going to make money if I help you? I'm not sure I understand everything you wrote. Could you give me the details of what I should do if I want the money? This stuff is legal right? I don'T want no trouble. If I do what you say, I will receive money, then send you a share and keep the rest? Is this going to cost me something? I got a credit card and everything but my credit limit is only $5,000. Will I need a lawyer? That would be expensive.

Thanks

L. Perenna"
A nice balance between cautiously eager and gullible! Looking forward to the reply!
 

srobert

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Waiting for his reply. In the meantime:

- I now have a working fax number (free online provider) associated with my bogus name.

- I am working on a bogus business card and letterhead.

Now here's hoping I get an answer so the real fun can begin. ;)
 

wdlove

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srobert said:
Dang! Have I been flagged or what. One hour later, here is what popped into my inbox.

And that's with maill.app's spam filter on.
I have gotten several of those spam messages from Nigeria. The person just happens to have my last name. Just another way to steal someone's identity or to empty a bank account. Very sad. :( :eek:
 

emw

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I got a great one the other day claiming to be from PayPal (for which I've never had an account) asking me to verify my account information. The link, which was not to PayPal, but was branded as such, asked for everything from my credit card number to bank account number, ss#, mother's maiden name, secret security questions (for sending passwords, etc.), debit card PIN#s, address, everything.

And some people fall for that. Scary - they'd have had everything they needed to wipe me out, and open all kinds of accounts in my name.
 

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I got one of those PayPal ones the other day. Click the link and Safari opens with a paypal.com address. But copy the address into TextEdit and you find it's actually pointing to some IP address.
 

srobert

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He took the bait. Here is his reply:

DEAR SIR,

I AM PLEASED WITH YOUR UN-DELAYED RESPONSE TO MY MAIL AND I STAND TO
LET YOU KNOW THAT WE BOTH SHALL CONGRATULATE OUR SELF AT THE SUCCESSFUL
CONCLUSION OF THIS TRANSACTION THAT IS BAND WITH TRUST AND
CONFIDENTIALITY WHICH THEY SAY IS THE KEY TO EVERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.

YOU DON'T NEED ANY LAWYER FOR I AM HERE TO STAND AS YOUR LEGAL
REPRESENTATIVE AS A LAWYER THEREFORE IF THERE WILL BE ANY EXPENSES TO BE
INCURRED, IT HAS NOT COME UP YET.I HAVE MAPPED OUT HOW TO PERFECT THE
MODALITIES IN SEEING THAT EVERY THING IS WELL TAKEN CARE OF . I HAVE KNOW HOW
TO GO ABOUT THIS AND SEE THAT WE ACHIEVE OUR GOAL WITHIN THE SHORTEST
TIME , TO THIS I HAVE ASCERTAIN THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT GOING TO
EXCEED 14 WORKING DAYS STARTING FROM THE DAY WE FORWARD OUR APPLICATION
TO THE BANK.I HEREBY ADVISED YOU TO SEND TO ME PHONE/FAX AND HOME
ADDRESS AS WELL AS THE BENEFICIARY'S NAME. I WILL USE MY CONNECTION TO SEE
THAT URGENT ATTENTION IS GIVEN TO OUR APPLICATION FOR AN APPROVAL TO BE
GIVEN IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT DELAY. PLEASE SEE THAT YOU GET BACK TO ME
IMMEDIATELY.
I EXPECT TO SEE THE REQUIRED INFORMATION OF YOURS IMMEDIATELY AND DO
NOT FAIL TO INCLUDE YOUR COUNTRY PHONE CODE.

THANKS,
JOHN DICKSON.
Dang! He really thinks I'm über stoopid. I'll reply. Stay tuned for more funny emails.
 

srobert

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Ok, here is the reply I sent him:

Luis Perenna said:
Hello again Mr. Dickson

I can't tell you about how I am excited about you choosing me. I've calculated my share. 25% of $15,000,000 is $3,750,000 right? That's how much I'm gonna keep? I think I'm going to use this money to buy a new house and a car.

But back to business.

I don't know much about the internets so I've asked my mother to help me with this. Don't worry, she can be trusted and won't tell anyone. I told her I'll give her $500,000 if she keeps this secret.

She says that you might not be a real person. She says that you might be a computer program sending these message automatically. She wants you to email me a picture of you with a piece of cardboard with words of my choosing on it. If you do this, I will know you are not a program and will trust you completely.

Please send me a picture of you holding a piece of cardboard over your head. Write on the cardboard the following words: "Mamma said pictures"

When I receive this picture, you will have my trust and I will send you more personal information about me.

Looking forward to be rich.

L. Perenna

Do I sound gullible enough? I don't want to look like I know too much about "the internets". ;)

For those of you wondering, "Mamma said pictures" is an anagram for "I am a stupid scammer"

I'll post the guy's reply if he does reply.
 

Mechcozmo

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How stupid are we to, by our OWN WILL, go to a thread to read spam?
I just noticed that... :eek:

But the emails are quite funny. Keep them up.
 

munkle

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srobert said:
Do I sound gullible enough? I don't want to look like I know too much about "the internets". ;)

For those of you wondering, "Mamma said pictures" is an anagram for "I am a stupid scammer"

I'll post the guy's reply if he does reply.
This thread could become a MR classic...but surely he's not going to reply, is he?! :eek: :p

Was reading one of the scams from the link provided and someone actually managed to convince one of the scammers to send a naked photo of himself, a very scary thought. Amazing what some people will stoop too in the name of greed. :rolleyes: