Spinning beachball freezes everyone move mouse. Starts after hours of use

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  1. applelover4u, Jun 15, 2017
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    applelover4u macrumors 6502

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    Sorry I meant every time not everyone

    2014 late Mac mini 4gb

    With browsers open and or few apps after hours of working I will get the spinning beachball and freezing for like 15 seconds at a time . Have been constantly happen lately after a few hours and happens whenever I move the mouse


    I thought it was the ssd hard drive I have booted off externally but I recently changed that and it was fine . I then restored my apps and now I get freezes and beachball

    I'm thinking it maybe a app but why does it takes hours for the beachball to appear? Is there a way I can see startup apps?

    Could it be something else?

    Had this Mac ever since it first came out and it started doing this months ago
     
  2. redheeler macrumors 604

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    How much memory (RAM) is installed in your Mac? Open the Activity Monitor app, click the Memory tab. If the memory pressure graph at the bottom is showing RED when the freezes happen, that means you're running out of memory. It will also list all apps and how much memory they are using.
     
  3. keysofanxiety macrumors G3

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    What Mac do you have?
     
  4. applelover4u thread starter macrumors 6502

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    4gb Mac mini 2014

    I believe it never showed red . It can be on window with tabs open and it will do it
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    2014 Mac mini 4gb. Had it since released
     
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    Run this from Terminal and see whether it makes any difference:
    Code:
    launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mediaanalysisd.plist
    That service seems to have a habit of dropping some machines to a crawl for no obvious reason, so give it a go. It'll reload on next reboot so isn't a permanent fix.
     
  6. keysofanxiety macrumors G3

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    OK. Might be the HDD but you advised you booted through an SSD via USB as your boot drive and it was still exhibiting the same issues? If that's the case, that's very odd.

    You can quickly run SMART Utility to check the internal HDD: https://cloudfront.volitans-software.com/smartutility323.zip
     
  7. applelover4u thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I don't use the internal Harddrive

    Seems like when I turned on the Mac firewall it stopped but later hours later it started again
     
  8. applelover4u thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Is there a way to s
    tried that and this is what i got

    /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mediaanalysisd.plist: Operation not permitted while System Integrity Protection is engaged
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    Im thinking it might be my enclousure to my external ssd that i boot from now
     
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    Hmm, maybe put "sudo" in front? I've never seen that message.
     
  10. Taz Mangus, Jun 16, 2017
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    Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

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    You will need to disable SIP first: https://www.howtogeek.com/230424/ho...ity-protection-on-a-mac-and-why-you-shouldnt/
     
  11. DeltaMac macrumors G3

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    I get the same message when running that command...
    I tried this same command with a sudo and get
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    /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mediaanalysisd.plist: Could not find specified service
    @Nermal: if you have to disable SIP just to unload that service, where you have to reboot, then reboot again to enable SIP again, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of unloading that service in the first place?
     
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    I'm not sure what to say:
    Code:
    nermal$ csrutil status
    System Integrity Protection status: enabled.
    Yet unloading mediaanalysisd works on my machine, and does indeed speed it up when it slows down. It may not even be the same issue though; it just sounds similar.
     
  13. DeltaMac macrumors G3

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    Maybe that command only works when the mediaanalysisd service is loaded. The file is there, but the system doesn't appear to load it at boot. I'm running 10.12.6 beta, maybe it doesn't load on that system.
     
  14. heycal macrumors 6502a

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    I'm having some beach ball issues myself, more and more everyday, while composing emails in yahoo or using my screenwriting program. (The two main things I do.) I use a 2013 Mac Air, high sierra, 10.13.3. I'm also unfortunately an old guy who doesn't understand all that tech talk above... Anyone know what might be my issue? Here a screenshot of my activity monitor if still helps. Thanks to all who might be able to help! Screen Shot 2018-03-24 at 12.18.27 PM.png
     
  15. treekram macrumors 68000

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    Your memory situation is not ideal (swap of 125MB, compressed just under 400MB) but is OK (green memory pressure). How much remaining disk space do you have on your system disk? You can check but clicking on the Apple logo in the upper left, select "About This Mac" and then select the "Storage" tab. Lack of free disk space would be my guess given the information you've given but there could be other reasons as well. Examining the possible alternatives, if it's not lack of disk space, would require downloading and running some diagnostic software and it's not at all certain that any of us would be able to give find a solution to your issue. Given your stated lack of tech-savvy, if it's not that difficult, you may want to make an appointment at the Genius Bar of an Apple Store (it's free) and have them take a look at the computer and give suggestions. Otherwise, I can give a couple of suggestions of software to download and run to try to diagnose your problems (just post if you want that).
     
  16. heycal macrumors 6502a

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    This is what it shows. If you think there's something a simpleton like myself can do about it myself, I welcome some suggestions. I'd love to avoid a trip to the Apple store if neccessary. Not my favorite place:)

    Screen Shot 2018-03-24 at 3.43.16 PM.png
     
  17. treekram macrumors 68000

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    Like your memory, the free disk space is not ideal but should be OK.

    You should look at Activity Monitor (what you used previously for memory) under the CPU tab when you have a beachball. Make sure that the % CPU is in descending sort order (if it doesn't show the downward arrow like it does in the image on the click on it until it does). If there's a process that's consistently taking more than, say, 10%, that may be an issue.
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201464

    If you want to proceed further through the process of diagnosing your problem in macrumors, I would suggest starting a new post in the High Sierra forum. Explain the issue as you did in your post #14 with the images that you have posted. You would likely attract more views from people that can help and it's more likely than not that it's different from the problem in this post. I'll be on the lookout for it.
     
  18. heycal macrumors 6502a

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    Thank you. I may do as you suggest and post there. I appreciate the help.
     

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