Stem Cell Transplant Cures HIV In 'Berlin Patient'

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  1. anjinha macrumors 604

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    Wow! :eek:

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  2. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Stem Cell Transplant Cures HIV In 'Berlin Patient'

    Very promising news. Where are those against the use of stem cells?

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    I kept both posts and merged the threads so you can both get credit ;)
     
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    You're OK Dawg. I mean, for a mod. ;)
     
  5. anjinha thread starter macrumors 604

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    Hehe, thanks. :D
     
  6. leekohler macrumors G5

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    This is great! I wonder when they will be able to do this on a larger scale?
     
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    I'm just waiting for a statement from the Catholic church. Wasn't HIV and aids a curse from God?
     
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    This is awesome! So basically anyone infected of HIV now can take pills to keep them well until this cure becomes mainstream. In the end, no one has to die from HIV ever again now.
     
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    I'm sure it's on it's way. Give them a minute.
     
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    Do you seriously think that the Catholic Church thinks that HIV was a curse from God?

    And the Church is not against stem cells, it's against embryonic stem cells. Any word on whether these were embryonic stem cells or not? All the articles I see don't say, but the way they say the stem cells came from a donor leads me to believe they were not embryonic stem cells.
     
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    And if they were embryonic stem cells, would the church be against this potentially life saving procedure?
     
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    Should I not? Doesn't the pope say that condoms make aids worse, and that aids is a curse to homosexual activity?
     
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    Yes, because the potentially life-saving procedure would most definitely destroy another life (the embryo).
     
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    EVERYONE is against killing babies for their stem cells. Please, get a grip.

    Stem cells from the umbilical cord/placenta can be used, without cause for concern for the Catholic church.

    No Catholics were harmed during this break-through in curing diseases.
     
  16. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    No you should not. First, condoms do make HIV transmission worse because people feel safer and engage in risky sexual behavior. Link. Second, the pope recently came out and said that if you're going to be engaging in immoral sexual behavior, using a condom in those cases might be a first step towards morality.

    Third, hell no, the pope has never said that AIDs is a curse to homosexual activity.

    I need to get a grip? Other people in this thread are making outrageous accusations about how the Church thinks HIV is a curse on homosexuals. I'm merely stating that this procedure is in now way conflicting with Catholic doctrine or morality. So I need to get a grip for using facts, while others are free to twist the truth to slam an organization they don't like?
     
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    You're going to lecture people, then link to an op-ed piece? Not to mention that it does not support your claim, especially in developed countries. That is a very misleading statement, not to mention irresponsible and I would hope that you know that. That article was just about Africa too.

    And it would seem that your church does need to clean up it's house a little:

    http://ncronline.org/news/global/protest-disbelief-follow-belgium-archbishops-aids-statements?page=1
     
  18. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Seems unlikely that they were embryonic stem cells:

     
  19. coolmacguy macrumors regular

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    Negative. An embryo is not a life, it is a cell with the potential to become a life, IF it is implanted in a womb. These would not be implanted, hence they have no chance for becoming lives.

    And you can't object to that without objecting to a lot of other lab procedures already used that destroy embryos in a lab setting (without the potential to become a life), which are already permitted.
     
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    People, this argument is not hard to grasp... little help
     

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    this is REALLY exciting

    I hope they can reproduce it.
     
  23. bradl macrumors 68040

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    This reminds me of an episode of Star Trek: TNG.. Unnatural Selection. The Enterprise encounters a supply ship where everyone has died from rapid aging, and must find the cause before scientists on a research colony suffer the same fate. Dr. Pulaski tries to help, but gets infected as well, and rapidly ages.

    The cure: Transport her to the Enterprise, and use the biofilters in the transporter to wipe out the disease, using a sample of her own DNA previously collected before she was infected.

    Sounds somewhat familiar to this.. and you have to admit, rather foretelling, especially for something written in 1989.

    Some good lessons to be learned from that show.

    BL.
     
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    The picture is awesome! Best one I have seen on this subject.

    Go stem cell research!
     

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