Stephen Hawking: Trump A Demagogue For ‘Lowest Common Denominator’

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    I very much enjoyed ‘Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking – Aliens,’ I recommend it.
     
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    His opinion on Trump is no more valid than yours. Mine however is highly valid because I actually know more about US politics than a Brit scientist who was wrong about black holes, his specialty!
     
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    Hawking is about as qualified to comment on politics as I am qualified to comment on string physics.
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    I hold a degree in social science.

    The problem is that social science and politics immediately affects everyone and that's why everyone and their dog has an opinion on it.
    99.99% of these opinions are unqualified.

    And of course Trump is a demagogue.
    That's not some deep insight.
    All politicians use demagoguery.
    Only morons believe otherwise.
     
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    So you think Hawking is a moron? LOL Oh okay. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hawking. All full of himself after his biography won awards. So he took his straw and blew out his Lefty views on Trump, while demeaning a portion of America in typical Leftist arrogance.
     
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    Famous scientists are not immune to jealousy. ;)
     
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    Yes, just keep rolling with the cheap excuses for why not everyone is fawning over lord mighty Trump.
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    1. Perhaps a Brit is not as well versed in American politics... PERHAPS... but how exactly does that make your opinion more valid than other Americans?
    2. Not only does the black hole thing have **** all to do with anything here, but it shows a lack of understanding towards the actual nuances of science.
     
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    How dare the LCDs be upset at the way things are done by government? How dare they?

    The LCDs: The plumbers who repair your sink or toilet. School bus drivers. Auto mechanics. The truck drivers who haul food to the grocery store. Mom'n'pop small business people.

    You know them--those people who are too unimportant to be listened to.
     
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    The comments seem focused more on his qualifications to comment as an expert on politics (American or generally) than actually questioning his intelligence in the absolute.

    I will point out that this is exactly the type of self-fulfilling prophesy that is driving Trump in the polls. Where he is pulling in his base is the overlooked voter who is too often dismissed as uninformed or foolish. When a celebrity or other well-known individual, especially someone known for their intelligence like Hawking, calls Trump out as appealing to the the LCD, it confirms that "the powerbrokers are scared" and that they want to continue to control their "lessers".

    It is tough to counter, and I have my own thoughts about the right strategy, but telling someone that supports Trump that only an idiot would support Trump is never going to be a winning strategy. He isn't trying to appeal to the powerful, he is reaching out to the average Joe in a way that Obama started to, before his campaign propelled him to celebrity. Trump's advantage is that he already had celebrity and is less likely to allow his message and reach to be phased by his current popularity.
     
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    The problem with your working class narrative is that in the primaries the Trump voters have had higher median incomes than Clinton and Sanders voters:

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

    Trump voters are all over the place on economic issues. One thing that they all have in common is that,

    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" --Donald Trump, 23rd January 2016.
     
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    I don't think he's a moron. He is an admired and well-respected figure in his narrow field of study, and undoubtedly viewed as a genius by some. But that doesn't translate to politics.

    Frankly, I don't care what he thinks about any of the candidates, be it Trump, Clinton, Sanders, or somebody else.
     
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    Ah....so when Trump is full of himself it's all good. When a scientist does it it's bad...bad. And only Trump can demean people, right?

    You are too much. You really are. o_O
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    Well now if that were true you wouldn't have popped into this thread. :D
     
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    His voice box computer had a bug in it. What he really said was, "Strumpet, I'm agog at your black hole."
     
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    I have 2pm ET in the over/under when will Trump mock his disability pool.
     
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    Being an expert in one field does not make you an authority outside your specialty. Hawking should know that.
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    I didn't vote for Obama once or twice. That elevates my opinion's validity into the stratosphere compared to that of those who did vote for BHO in spite of reality.

    If Hawking can't get it right in his own specialty, by what right does he offer his two pence to people outside his nation about a subject he's apparently not qualified in?

    "Nuances of science"? If you think a consensus of scientists believing in something is overwhelming evidence that that something is true, don't waste my time with your nuances.
     
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    As should Trump.
     
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    Politicians should be generalists who excel at working with experts. Jimmy Carter is still the poster child for what happens when a micromanaging "expert" is put in charge.

    Oh, and about your signature: Your presumed presidential candidate is married to a sexual predator and a racist. Congratulations.
     
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    This, coming from a poster who, famously, does not understand the difference between National Socialism and Democratic Socialism.

    I think it is safe to say that we have nothing to learn from you. You are a legend in you own mind.
     
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    and you candidate announced how racist his is how much he hates women ,Mexicans ,muslims,handicapped people, judges, and pretty much anyone that does not bow to his orangeness. and and thinks he is god. good job picking quality there.
     
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    The only difference between the two is how much socialism is in the mix--the more there is, the faster the disaster.
     
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    Yes. The only difference. Very good.
     
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    I don't think you can show evidence that Trump is any "-ism" or "-ist". He's very targeted with his insults.
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    I love the bipartisan quality of today's conversations. Well done!
     
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    You are helping to prove my point. I enjoy that.
     
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    I like being bipartisan in return. Group hug!
     

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