Steve Jobs: Googles 'Dont Be Evil' Mantra is 'BS', Adobe Is Lazy

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From Wired:
On Google: We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says. Someone else asks something on a different topic, but there’s no getting Jobs off this rant. I want to go back to that other question first and say one more thing, he says. This don’t be evil mantra: “It’s bull**t.” Audience roars.

About Adobe: They are lazy, Jobs says. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5.
 

wikoogle

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I call fake, your link didn't work and this seems way too unprofessional even for Steve Jobs. If true...

On one hand I do respect him being open to everyone regarding how he feels, but atleaston the outside he should talk up healthy competition.

Right now Apple is it's own worst enemy. It has great talent, massive funds and good press. But if it keeps talking down hdmi, blu ray, flash, google, nvidia and ignoring what the fans want and instead focusing entirely on profits and marketshare, it'll discredit the brand image it worked so hard to create.

While it was okay at first, people are starting to resent how closed off and restrictive iTunes and iPhone os is.
 

admanimal

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It's not fake, you can go to wired.com and see the article right there. The reason the link doesn't work is that it has another form of the word "bull poop" in it, which the macrumors filter has censored.
 

Chaos123x

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Hate to say it but I hope Steve Retires soon. His ego controls to much of his products.
 

gibbz

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I call fake, your link didn't work and this seems way too unprofessional even for Steve Jobs. If true...

On one hand I do respect him being open to everyone regarding how he feels, but atleaston the outside he should talk up healthy competition.

Right now Apple is it's own worst enemy. It has great talent, massive funds and good press. But if it keeps talking down hdmi, blu ray, flash, google, nvidia and ignoring what the fans want and instead focusing entirely on profits and marketshare, it'll discredit the brand image it worked so hard to create.

While it was okay at first, people are starting to resent how closed off and restrictive iTunes and iPhone os is.
Not fake. There was a curse word in the URL. Sorry I missed it. The story is on the right of the home page.

If you want reassurance, it is on the front page now
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/31/steve-jobs-at-apple-town-hall-meeting-google-adobe-next-iphone-2010-macs-and-more/
 

MacDaddy901

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I seem like the only person around here that doesn't care about Flash support. HTML5 is just around the corner and the only flash based sites on the iPhone/iPad already have dedicated apps.
 

gibbz

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I seem like the only person around here that doesn't care about Flash support. HTML5 is just around the corner and the only flash based sites on the iPhone/iPad already have dedicated apps.
I, too, am waiting for the day HTML5 takes over. YouTube and Vimeo are jumping onboard.
 

calderone

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I seem like the only person around here that doesn't care about Flash support. HTML5 is just around the corner and the only flash based sites on the iPhone/iPad already have dedicated apps.
You should look around a bit more. There are quite a few of us.
 

admanimal

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What program can I make a HTML5 video in?
There is no such thing as an HTML5 video. The current draft spec of HTML5 contains a video tag that lets you embed a video player in the page. I believe the "unofficially official" formats are currently H.264 and OGG.
 

gibbz

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What program can I make a HTML5 video in?
HTML5 video isn't a video format.

I believe the "unofficially official" formats are currently H.264 and OGG.
I think that is right. Here is more info for Safari.

link
With Safari on Mac, the <video> tag can be used to playback any video format for which the user has the relevant codec and QuickTime component installed.
 

marksman

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He is right about google.

They are the most disreputable and unfriendly corporation going these days.
 

puffnstuff

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If Steve really wants to show Adobe perhaps Apple needs to come up with a competitor to Dreamweaver to make use of HTML5

iMovie ~> Final Cut Pro
Garage Band ~> Logic Studio
iWeb ~>?
 

8CoreWhore

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Kcuf Wired for their comment at the end. All the haters can do is poo poo Apple as Apple redefines computing and moves forward with greater success than most companies. Jobs is just telling it like it is. In an era of politicians, liars, rhetoric, etc... Jobs is a real man amongst boobs. Put up or shut up.:apple:
 

boldfire

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If Steve really wants to show Adobe perhaps Apple needs to come up with a competitor to Dreamweaver to make use of HTML5

iMovie ~> Final Cut Pro
Garage Band ~> Logic Studio
iWeb ~>?
I don't think so - they're all professional grade products. I don't know any colleagues that use Dreamweaver these days as unless you're using WYSIWYG it's bloated, and if you're using WYSIWYG you aren't very good!

Most of us will just use a program like Coda or advanced text editor (Notepad++ seems to be the Windows user's choice) for the HTML and CSS - even for PHP (although some will use Eclipse or a similar IDE for this).

I don't think there's a market for a professional grade web authoring tool from Apple... but I guess xcode is capable of it with some work (if it isn't already).
 

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his vision is awesome. His ego is horrendous.

He needs to start doing LSD again.
First of all, Steve Jobs is one of the most talented people when it comes to technology. This is the man who has revolutionized 4 separate categories of things, that we all use daily.
The iMac, iPhone, MacBooks, and now, the iPad.

I think he's doing just fine with or without LSD. Which is one of the weirdest drugs I have ever done. But I love how he takes pride in what he does. It makes him happy, and I really don't see anything wrong with it. It's his company, he can run it anyway he wants. You should be more concerned about what he makes, not his personality. Even if he had the nastiest personality in the world, that would still not say anything about the genius in him.

Now onto the Flash story. Flash is ********, and Apple are doing the right thing by boycotting it. It actually is pretty buggy to be honest. Maybe not as buggy as Jobs makes it seem, but HTML5 definitely has less problems.
Adobe need to step up their game if they wanna play on this playground. This is big boy stuff.