If you really think that Apple does not have the ability to test-adapt the iPad OS to run the current OS X Flash plugin then you must have no clue about software development.
Yeah right. Fake numbers... need I say more?
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If you really think that Apple does not have the ability to test-adapt the iPad OS to run the current OS X Flash plugin then you must have no clue about software development.
Yeah right. Fake numbers... need I say more?
One of the big problems with Flash is that much of the Flash code found on the web is written by hacks with no concept of how to optimize their code. I've seen more .fla files that have tens of 1000's of frames and take long time to publish and after tweaking them and adding some Action Script I'm able to optimize and cut down both the size of the file and the number of frames to under 100.
I was actually brought in to subcontract some Flash Banner ads and I was shocked at how bad the template that they were using was (all based on older versions of Flash, so it still works, just barely). When I inquired about who wrote it, I was told that it was created several years ago and they have just continued to use it. And these ads are all over the place (the client list for this company is impressive) and no one cares.
+1... well, except for the wanting to see flash die part
and quicktime?
are you being purposefully obnoxious? of all your posts on this thread you have yet to offer a single compelling argument. neither "my dad is stronger than your dad" nor "i know you are but what am i" are compelling arguments.
That Google wants to tout Flash as a selling point for Android against the iPhone.
Not surprisingly, you are mixing up two things, codec and container. H.264 is a codec, which can be put in many containers (AVI, MP4, SWF, MKV etc). YouTube introduced H.264 at some point because it was the most widely used codec for HD videos. This has nothing to do with the fact that they made it possible for iPhones and (most) HTML5 capable browsers to see the same H.264 content in an SWF-free container (MP4).
That's nonsense. It has been possible to write PDF viewers AND writers for much longer than the last two years. As a result, Apple quickly built their own viewer during the very beginnings of Mac OS X. PDF may not have been formally open before 2008, but it's been de facto open. Adobe had long stated they wanted PDF to be an ISO standard.
There is no way to built a viewer or writer for Flash.
RE: "the real world"
94% of the online world doesn't rely on OS X. [source]
Even if the iPad might someday soon capture as much market share as the iPhone currently has, the iPad + iPhone market share would only be about 1% of the total market.
You really believe the real world is going to rush to change because of the "special needs" of a segment that might someday reach 0.5% of the market?
When that 0.5% includes a lot of company CEOs wondering why they can't get the info off their own websites, yeah, I kinda do.
It's not the content, it's the player application. How else could you explain that the very same content plays with much less CPU usage once you go away from Flash to MP4 ?
You can see the same phenomenon on Windows albeit it's not as bad there. Play a HD movie on YouTube and watch your CPU usage. Download the file using one of the popular YouTube downloader tools and play it using your GPU-accelerated player. It will run much better. It will even run better without GPU-acceleration if you have an excellent codec like CoreAVC. Things do improve with Flash Player 10.1 but it's still far away from the really good players. Yes, I've tried it.
So tell me, what would be better:
a format where many companies could compete to build the best player
OR
a format owned by single company, that is the only one with a player, and a bad one at that.
?
Flash sucks
Same here, I can't stand flash, I see it all the time used for adds, to me if adobe really cared then why don't they put more work on it, that way everyone is happy, but no they keep the same garbage and just whine about how apple does not take them serious.
Apple takes PDF serious, so why rather than whining go back and really optimize flash. I myself have not seen flash take down safari but i have seen it slow my system down and clog the cpu big time. Come on Adobe your a big company take out those castles you have build around flash and get some serious programers that want flash to be the best.
Same here, I can't stand flash, I see it all the time used for adds, to me if adobe really cared then why don't they put more work on it, that way everyone is happy, but no they keep the same garbage and just whine about how apple does not take them serious.
Apple takes PDF serious, so why rather than whining go back and really optimize flash. I myself have not seen flash take down safari but i have seen it slow my system down and clog the cpu big time. Come on Adobe your a big company take out those castles you have build around flash and get some serious programers that want flash to be the best.
In case you missed it, this is about highly mobile internet devices (mainly phones and a not yet defined segment called tablets). Not desktop computers and notebooks.
Check you market share and web usage numbers for those devices again.
And to answer the standard reply that will inevitably come up now:
No, Apple doesn't see the iPad as a notebook replacement. The device is trying to create something new and targeted against netbooks (most of which are too weak to even run Flash smoothly, let alone HD content)
Most successful CEOs could afford to buy a Windows computer that permits them to properly view the information on their corporate website.
Right-Click?
Right-click on iPad. What are you drinking? Unless you carrying "illegal" mouse with it. Just kidding!
Right-click on iPad. What are you drinking? Unless you carrying "illegal" mouse with it. Just kidding!
Unfortunately, this is just a very very limited tech demo and not functional in any way. I'm not even sure if Adobe couldn't kill it if they wanted.
Sorry, this doesn't change anything.
I don't know if you remember the multi-million dollar lawsuits in the late 90's and early 00's.
Wikipedia said:
They didn't enforce the licensing if the developers weren't charging for it.
You're right, guys. Both of those have DRM. But neither of those are HTML implementations of the video tag in a browser. That part will have to change, or go through a gateway like a device with built in apps (like Roku), a device with downloadable apps (iPad/iPhone), or stand alone app on a computer controlled by the content provider (like iTunes).
Oh, I think Apple is certainly is capable. But Steve won't allow it. He's a modern day Howard Hughes going through his crazy phase.
Ok, you flash guys need to stop calling yourselves developers. You are nothing more than web UI code monkeys. Flex/Action script is not comparable to real languages like Java, C# and Objective-C.
Today, there is no excuse to use flash for building interactive interfaces as most of what you can do with flash can be done with jquery and jqueryui.
http://jquery.com/
http://jqueryui.com/
You can use languages like C#, VB.NET or Java with Jquery to create rich web apps that work on all platforms.
Accessibility has become a concern when building web UIs and Flash is not screenreader friendly.
Today, there is no excuse to use flash for building interactive interfaces as most of what you can do with flash can be done with jquery and jqueryui.
http://jquery.com/
http://jqueryui.com/
You can use languages like C#, VB.NET or Java with Jquery to create rich web apps that work on all platforms.
Accessibility has become a concern when building web UIs and Flash is not screenreader friendly.
Hm, I thought Air was the silly answer to netbooks. We already know how this played out for Apple.
iPad was an answer to tablets, although it is not a tablet. Well, sort of severely neutered one.
If iPad would be a netbook answer it would loose its battle, even before release date. Apple could not beat OEM, because of they could not build their gadgets on their own.
Jquery is amazing. but i haven't seen any true multimedia experience like this using jquery:
http://ecodazoo.com/
Now that thing is a work of art.
It's a popular format. That is all.
Don't call the sky navy blue and then backpedal and say that it's a "shade of blue" and claim to be somewhat right. It was wrong, plain and simple. And there's a difference, and it would change the argument if Apple was shunning a genuine standard instead of a popular but proprietary format.
And you knew that when you made your smart-face remark. Or you didn't and you should learn when to keep your ignorance to yourself.
HTML 5 and CSS 3
http://9elements.com/io/projects/html5/canvas/
http://webkit.org/blog-files/leaves/
http://anthonycalzadilla.com/css3-ATAT/index.html
http://pushingpixels.at/experiments/dynamic_shadow/
http://www.zurb.com/playground/sliding-vinyl
http://www.benjoffe.com/code/games/torus/
http://html5demos.com/
http://3.paulhamill.com/node/39
http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/
Jquery slideshows:
http://speckyboy.com/2009/06/03/15-amazing-jquery-image-galleryslideshow-plugins-and-tutorials/
http://www.buildinternet.com/project/supersized/default.php
Those are pretty sweet! For no plugins, that's pretty darn impressive (especially ben joffe's work!). But really, they don't even begin to touch http://ecodazoo.com/
I think in the future that javascript and the html canvas tag will change the way a lot of people think about web development.
You say AS3 isn't a real programming language, but I don't know what you would call it when those devs wrote their own 3d engine with portal technology (moving in and out of the 3d rooms ala Valve's Portal) and a dynamic 3d softbody/cloth simulation built in. That's a bit over my head, but my 3d experience in Maya/Max/C4d tells me it isn't all that simple to program!
There are several websites that I have to use daily in my job that use Flash. I have never had a negative experience with Flash. I know that ten to fifteen years ago, Flash ran very slowly on computers. But today's computers run Flash no problem. As a result, I continue to use Flash. Many websites that use Flash cannot be replaced with video. I work in biotech, and we have cancer researchers using Flash to explain and demo interactive research methods on their websites. A video cannot replace that.