Stewart Nails McCain on his DADT stance

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    Remember when people said the Daily Show would run out of funny things once Bush left office? I think they've been in rare form for the past year or so -- better than ever.
     
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    I really honestly believed that. But I guess I should have expected the right to lose their collective **** once a "socialist liberal" go into office. :D
     
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    I dont

    I don't agree with DADT, but I have a VERY hard time watching Jon Stewart shamelessly mock a decorated veteran and former POW Senator.

    Mock the policy, not the person. Jon Stewart just lost major point in my book, not that he had many to begin with.
     
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    If any politician deserves mocking it's McCain. The old bastard will say anything to get elected and changes his mind as often as most of us change our underwear. His service and being a POW don't give him a free pass. He is irrelevant as a political force and seems to do and say anything to try and regain any.
     
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    I agree. I am 100% against DADT but you shouldn't just outright mock someone who is against it. Like I said I strongly disagree with McCain on DADT but at the same time I understand that he comes from a different generation that is not as accepting to homosexuality as my generation. I am by no means condoning what he said Im just trying to look at it from his point of view.
     
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    Stewart clearly doesn't have a problem with it though- He had an entire rally for the sole purpose of mocking half the US population. How compassionate...

    I am seeing more and more mocking of the person, calling them stupid, etc... I can get behind someone disagreeing with somebody else on the issues, but insulting them or mocking them personally is just absurd and makes the offender look childish in the worst way.
     
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    That is why I have stopped watching the Daily Show and to a lesser extent the Colbert Report. Its not right to insult someone personally simply because of their views on hot button issues. Oh I almost forgot to mention Bill Maher the most condescending person to ever hit the airwaves.
     
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    Spot on.

    There is a world of difference between
    "You support DADT? You must be an idiot."

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    "You support DADT? That policy really stupid."

    Maher is condescending, although not even in the same league as Maddow. Its a shame, too. Maher has some pretty appealing political views aside from his PETA endeavors.
     
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    Totally agree with this statement.
     
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    Stewart's rally was mocking extremists, not conservatives. Extremists (on both sides) may be vocal but they are not anywhere near half the US population.
     
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    Is he mocking him because he is a war veteran that was a POW? Don't think so. He is mocking McCain because he first said he would look into repealing DADT if the military leadership recommended to end it. Military leadership does exactly that, now it is lets wait and see the results of the study and then he'll come back to discuss ending DADT. Study says the armed forces overwhelmingly says ending DADT won't effect them. Then McCain says something else he wants done.

    If he is against repealing DADT, then just come out and say it. Don't BS us with stall tactics.
     
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    An ******* is and ******* is an *******.

    I respect his service and what he has been through, that doesn't give him a free pass to plainly be a dick the rest of his life. We used to call these people spineless flip floppers. He gets "maverick".
     
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    Do a bit of research on Mccain's stance on DADT, if you can follow it. The man is nothing but an opportunist who changes his mind as often as the wind does direction.
     
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    So serving in the military and/or being a POW completely makes you immune to ridicules? Does doing those things makes you Jesus Christ and infallible.

    It's that kind of black and white thinking that leads to crappy stuff like DADT.
     
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    If Mccain ever outright kicked a baby in the face we'd have people crying out in outrage at those who called him out on it. God knows that getting tortured (and NO ONE should ever have to go through what that man has been through) decades ago allows you to do whatever you want the rest of your life.
     
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    I tried to watch the clip On my iPhone but couldn't of course bEcause of flash. Does anyone know of any sites that has daily show clips that r iPhone friendly besides iTunes?
     
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    ok...

    So none of your guy's rationalizations change the fact the Stewart was mocking McCain the person, not DADT the policy.

    Besides, it shouldnt matter if your a veteran POW or not, no one should be personally mocked because of their views on an issue. Not even liberals :p
     
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    I'll mock Mccain freely. Why? He's an ******* and nothing but an opportunist. He has no actual beliefs anymore from what I can tell. He's doing anything and everything he thinks will help him keep his job, even if its a complete 180 on his past stances. He has no spine and no real morals.

    The man completely changed his stance on his own legislation for christs sake.
     
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    That was friggin hilarious! It just shows that McCain is still a talking head looking for the vote...

    Seriously, anyone with a record of flip flopping like that should be on the receiving end of jokes.

    I don't think anyone is denying that Stewart was mocking McCain. Just understand that Stewart wasn't mocking McCain "because of [his] views on an issue." Rather, McCain is being mocked for flip flopping so much.

    I have more respect for the leader of the KKK than McCain, only because Thomas Robb has integrity behind his words. Sure, it may be mis-guided, horrible, and morally abhorrent, but at least I know where the KKK leader stands, and that he won't flip his stance at the drop of a dime, or lie to me about it.
     
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    Let's be accurate here -- McCain was mocked for his hypocrisy and flip flopping, not simply because he doesn't want DADT repealed. He was not being mocked for his views, he was mocked for his behavior. Mocked for trying to conceal his position with weasely excuses and misstatements. That's fair game for mocking and rebuke. If he'd just come out and honestly said he wants to uphold DADT there wouldn't be a story.

    That's unrealistic. Some views deserve mocking -- like the "9/11 was an inside job" loons or flat earthers or the "vaccinations cause autism" paranoids. Ridiculous beliefs warrant ridicule (by definition).

    If someone believes that NASA faked the moon landings they deserve all the ridicule they're going to draw.
     
  22. Mac'nCheese, Nov 16, 2010
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    Why not? Isn't that what comedians have being doing with public figures for years? If the public figure is an actor, u mock their work. Same thing here, only their work is right in tune with their political views. I'm sure it happens on both sides, to both parties. At least on the d.s., stewart mocks both sides.
     
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    He's not being mocked for his stance on the policy, rather his inability to take a stand openly. We get it, he, pandering to his primary constituency, has to appear to be blocking the repeal of DADT. However, to appeal to the broader, less socially conservative MAJORITY of the US, he had to say he would support DADT's repeal if military leadership recommended...no, if leadership and the troops recommended it...no, if there was no evidence of affect on battle readiness and morale. He's being mocked for shifting the goal line to suit his political agenda.

    The brilliance of the Daily Show is that they somehow can cull clips of politicians (of both parties) blatantly contradicting themselves, and calling them on the b******t.
     
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    Hmm... I'm having trouble seeing why going after McCain is unacceptable to some of you. If McCain just took the line of some of his more overtly homophobic colleagues, then fine he's being consistent. What the problem, and TDS's point, is that he is an obstructionist using bureaucracy to forestall decisions. Pointing out his stalling techniques is what news analysis ought to do. Were TDS a news analysis program, it would have McCain on to defend himself. Politicians should be subjected to this treatment - it's called holding them accountable.
     

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