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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by jkcerda, Apr 25, 2019.
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Roald Dahl, 1988
I was nearly denied entry my senior year of college because I couldn't provide my records in time. Thankfully an extension was given and I tracked down the records.
With the outbreak all across the country -- and NYS hardest hit -- I think the schools must take this stance. It's going to spread even more unfortunately.
Stupid anti-vaxxers did this - with our luck they'll bring back Polio too.
I had to prove I had had vaccinations for university.
Im all for personal beliefs but if your belief is based out of ignorance and that puts someone else's kid at risk, then that's a problem and your belief should take a back seat.
Anti-vaxxers coming mostly from the right-wing (anti-science) GOP base.
It's the bigmouth demagogues like Rush Limbaugh that had provided a voice for the anti-vaxxers for years.
If you'd called them NAZI's we could have had the thread closed.
There’s a fair few hippy leftie anti-vaxxers too.
I don't recall having to prove I had mine in CA.
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sorry, but I know a few lefties who are anti vax.
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I didn't have to prove mine, but that was in the 80's. My daughter had to provide proof before she entered University, and that was 4 years ago.
Yeah, the Anti-Vaxx thing is not really a left v right thing. it's more stemming from the idea that everyone believes they have the right to an opinion, and don't care anymore if that opinion is based on reality or wrong facts.
but they're entitled to it regardless and anyone who tells them otherwise is wrong.
Unfortunately, this is where regulation and some level of authority needs to be able to step in, tell them they're wrong, and that their poor opinions are a detriment to public health and that their opinions are irrelevant to society.
But we're so afraid these days of enforcing anything that might be seen as authoritarian, even when it makes sense because we're constantly afraid now of playing politics and offending "people", even if those people are wrong. Because they're voters. So no matter how wrong they are, politicians want their vote and will yield if they believe the group is enough people to matter
Vaccinations should be mandatory, unless a provable medical condition can be shown.
I'm unable to get most vaccinations due to birth issues related to being intersex. When I entered university in the mid-90's I had to get release papers from my doctors stating why I wasn't vaccinated.
Also... as someone who couldn't get most vaccinations, if you're an anti-vaxxer, I hope you get mauled by a pissed off baboon.
not a fan of having the GOVT mandate what goes into your body.
Where in the world did you get that information? Do you work for CNN?
Nor am I.
I would generally agree that for MOST instances, the government should not be inovlved in deciding what, and how we put things into ourselves.
want to walk around witha buttplug all day long, Go for it
want to inject yourself with glass beads because it makes your skin feel all bumpy... sure, whatever floats your boat.
want to not take life saving vaccines for non-communicable diseases? Sure, you're not hurting anyone else.
But refusing to take life saving vaccines for COMMUNICABLE diseases we have almost all but eradicated as some form of stance against government is just an assanine position, since it absolutely starts putting others at risk. it is the governments job to weigh the individual choice versus societal safety.
Vaccines for communicable diseases are the one place where we essentially have 100% evidence about it's worthwhile efficacy.
I only care because it’s a clear negative externality in bringing back diseases that we eradicated decades ago. Otherwise if you believe the earth is flat or that we didn’t land on the moon I couldn’t care less.
You're entitled to your Libertarian rights, sure…. but your libertarian rights END when you or your kids spread deadly germs to other kids, or my kids.
That's the whole issue right there. I don't mind you demanding your freedom to do whatever with your body. But when your body (or your children's bodies) are spreading lethal communicable diseases to myself, my friends, my family…. then something must be done to stop/regulate your ability to spread deadly diseases to others (such as myself, my family, my kids). That's why I support the schools efforts to quarantine and to require vaccinations.
He's not Libertarian. He's too smart to be one.
Good on these schools. Unless you have a legitimate reason for not being able to get vaccinated, then don't bother bitching about it.