Students should use laptops right or lose them (iBooks)

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, Feb 12, 2006.

  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. Deepdale macrumors 68000


    May 4, 2005
    New York
    From the article: ".... students were able to gain access to a teacher's list of students' computer passwords. The students ... then shared their newly acquired knowledge with classmates. ... To their credit, students were honest about what they had done, and even showed schools officials what was accessed and how they were able to see them."

    So long as they shared and were honest in the face of being confronted ... good family values at work. :)
  3. winmacguy macrumors 68020


    Nov 8, 2003
    New Zealand
    In the voice of Forrest Gump "Stoopid is as stoopid does"
    Computer security is only as good as those who enforce it regardless of the platform.:rolleyes:
  4. wpholmes@ macrumors newbie

    Dec 22, 2005
    Old News

    Wow, this happened months ago, it seems this newspaper just figured it out and made it seem like horrifying breaking news. So they found passwords taped to the back of the machine! Kids do worse every day across the country, it's just the fact that computers were involved that makes people think it's "shocking"
  5. killmoms macrumors 68040


    Jun 23, 2003
    Washington, DC
    The lesson here is: passwords become USELESS when they're WRITTEN DOWN. You'd think after at least 10 years of the general public computing in the Internet age this would be common knowledge. So yeah, what happened here isn't that surprising—the teachers compromised the security of the system by making their passwords accessible to passers-by, and were surprised when precocious and computer-savvy youth took advantage of that. Why is this news? :confused:
  6. Seasought macrumors 65816


    Nov 3, 2005
    It is unfortunate that Hodgkins administrators had to take such extreme action because a few students used their laptops to go where they did not belong.

    Yes, it is unfortunate that they had to throw away all those post-it notes with passwords written on them (oh and shred them too). </sarcasm> :rolleyes:
  7. macnulty macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2003
    Rehoboth Beach, De
    I think that occured in the Kutztown, Pa school district.
  8. sjk macrumors 6502a

    May 2, 2003
    Passwords have no relevance or importance to certain people and they're stubbornly insistent to remaining ignorant.

    When I help "novices" troubleshoot computer problems they're often clueless about passwords. They've forgotten them (relying on auto-logins) or have them set to something trivial to guess (e.g. their username) and reuse the same one everywhere (which someone recently told me someone had "recommended" to her as a good idea :eek: ).

    Sometimes I'll try explaining the basic issues to them as simply as possible with a lock-and-key analogy but even that gets blank stares of misunderstanding or disinterest. Other times I know I'll eventually lose patience with the futile effort so it's better to avoid saying anything while internally sighing heavily and hiding my eye-rolling from them.
  9. thewhitehart macrumors 6502a


    Jul 9, 2005
    The town without George Bailey
    It's true that some people just don't care about their personal data. The hacker may always find a way around an obstacle, but it helps to at least take some precautions to buy time.

    Just thinking about it, I'm blown away by how many passwords I have stored in my head. I rarely use one twice and never write them down.
  10. steve_hill4 macrumors 68000


    May 15, 2005
    NG9, England
    At the end of the day, people will always say they use the same password gloabally because they can't remember that many of them. I have a simple rule, if it's something important, (email, banking etc), have a secure password with it. If it can be lost and retrieved through my email at some point anyway, it is of no importance to remember it every time. If I expect not to use it often or it is of low importance, I don't care if I do lose it anyway.

    It's when people set easy passwords like "password1" with their online banking, then either someone guesses it or they are phished into giving it out that they then become concerned by the lack of security and look for someone else to blame.
  11. otter-boy macrumors regular

    Jun 21, 2003
    Fort Worth, TX
    Lists of passwords???

    There should be no lists of students' passwords. Teachers/administrators should have another way of accessing the computers other than logging in as the students (such as logging in as the administrator (or another role) remotely through Apple Remote Desktop). Also, admin users (the tech staff) should be able to reset passwords without opening the students' accounts.

    My company doesn't have my password and doesn't need it to access my computer. They can reset my password for me and install upgrades or wipe my hard drive without my password.

    What good reason do they have to keep the students passwords if they reserve admin accounts for staff?

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