Considering that the "confirmed loophole" thread is now 22 pages deep with various questions about what if scenarios, it's get's harder and harder to follow to see if anybody has successfully completed the loophole switch. With that being said, I'm starting this thread so that anybody that has successfully completed the vz loophole can post here your process. Please answer some questions as this will help out the community. 1. How did you complete the loophole switch? i.e. on-line, on the phone, in apple store, in vz store? 2. Do you or don't you need a new SIM card? 3. Did you pre-order or buy from store? 4. If preorder, did you activate the phone/turn on the phone when you got it or did you wait until instructed to by va/apple rep? 5. What was the actual process? i.e. Did you activate on dumb phone line first (as was originally thought to be the case) and then add smallest data plan? Wait a little bit and then and remove the ip5 and re-activate the dumb phone and remove the data pln and then move the ip5 to the line with the UDP? If I'm missing any other questions that people are commonly asking, please feel free to add. On a side note, if you ordered the black ip5, confirm if you are experiencing scuff-gate.