Suicide or Medical Treatment

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    I was watching a TV show the other day and this popped into my mind.

    You just realized you have a medical condition that's fatal if left untreated. If you were planning to commit suicide, but concerned for your family's reaction after the fact, would you just keep this condition to yourself and forgo treatment? I mean it would be perfect since it would be a "natural" death and won't be looked at as a suicide. But, who knows, suicides most often happen in a certain moment.
     
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    I think it depends on the terminal illness. Who wants to have a prolonged and agonizing death?

    Sometimes I wonder if this actually happens and if the dying person has a change of heart once they know there really is nothing they can do. Some people carry on because they know suicide is an option, a semblance of control in an otherwise uncontrollably unhappy life. Once their death is out of their control they might resent it.
     
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    Suicide is not and never will be an option for me. Life is a gift and even when you feel you're as low as you can be, there's always a way out of the situation.

    As for a terminal illness, I wouldn't give up. I would fight it for every second it took to show people and myself that I never gave up on and appreciate life.
     
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    Technically, life is a terminal condition, which has no cure...so.....
     
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    He's just missing a
     

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    Yeah, there's always this quote that I think of when it comes to life and death. "Life is death postponed"

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    Anyway, this situation that I explained was pretty much talking about a terminal illness that would cause you to be dead within months. Treatment would diminish quality of life, but death from it is painless.
     
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    Amen. Just gotta do what we can while we're still here. :eek:


    So it's an option for you but it's not?
     
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    I believe that we have already covered that.

    On topic, until you are faced with this decision, you have no idea how you will handle it.

    It is some comfort that some jurisdictions, like Oregon as "Mom" points out, allow such self-determination.

    Neither religion nor government should own your ass at the end-of-life.
     
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    It depends. I mean if you got a prion disease you're definitely done for. No hope whatsoever.

    Suicide can prevent an agonizing death, and depending on your situation, financial burden on your family. Though some say you can't put a price on time/life, I think that's an individual decision.
     
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    MOD NOTE: Thread moved to PRSI to encourage discussion of the controversial topic within the forum rules.

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    I don't understand the premise??

    Was I already thinking about killing myself, then discovered I had a fatal disease?

    Or did I first discover I had the fatal disease, then decided to end it earlier?
     
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    You have no moral obligation to suffer to postpone their sorrow.

    I'd rather die in control as what I am than out of my control and only a remnant of who I used to be.
     
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    He did make it sound like "a way out", which he lacked all along.

    I chose to take the more constructive road.

    People wanting to commit suicide for non-life threatening situations require psychiatric intervention.

    People with painful terminal illness do not.
     
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    I think the OP was asking the first one then the discussion got changed to the second one.
     
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    Fixed it up. It should have read, "Suicide is not and never will be an option..."
     
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    "... for me." Much better. :)

    But if you attempt to impose your will on others, well, then we have a problem.
     
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    What I meant originally was that if you originally thought about committing suicide and you were dead set on it but unsure how to commit it. Then you just find out that you have a terminal illness that will end your life in within months and that if you left it untreated will cause an easy death, but treatment will cause a prolonged and agonizing quality of life. So, this was a perfect opportunity to have the "suicide" that you wanted to have since it won't be looked as one and your death won't have as much negative connotation.
     
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    What's the question again? :cool:
     
  24. thatoneguy82 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    No question really. More of a statement for a discussion.

    But, if a question is desired, which situation is worse of the two? And, like many times this a question like this is asked, "none" isn't an option really. Choosing one or the other simply says which one would shock you more and has no bearing on your psychological health.
     
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    The insurance policy aspect would mean many people who would have chosen suicide would just have to let things run their course naturally.

    But that aside, I can imagine situations where I would commit suicide. Longer you suffer, the longer people around you suffer unfortunately. Best to let them get grieving asap so they can move on with their lives.

    But maybe that's not what you're asking.
     

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