Survey adds to suspicion that millions of non-citizens are voting

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    I really like the graphic urging in Spanish for citizens to vote, that's good enough for me. :rolleyes:
    ...and consider the source. :oops:
     
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    If this is true why has no one bought it up before.
     
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    wonder how much trump paid for this survey?
     
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    because it was socially acceptable and cool to look the other way during Obamafail's rein. I support getting to the bottom of it all and cracking down on voter registration and insuring that everyone registered has to have met specific requirements to do so.
     
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    Because all the illegal voters vote for the Democrat/Marxist/MSM/Globalist candidates.
     
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    Lol.
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    http://projects.iq.harvard.edu/cces...ing-low-frequency-events-large-sample-surveys

    I guess ol' Jesse is coming back after his last attempt at this was thoroughly debunked.
     
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    Other than black people there aren't any groups that are that well defined. And besides the Republican party is hardly a small deal.
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    Why.

    Totally agree.
     
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    right because you have as much proof as trump has.

    when polls are true when they only fit right wing thinking.
     
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    like a broken digital clock.
     
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    If they registered to vote we should have a good deportation pickup point.
     
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    Yes, remember Sweden! Or all those thousands of people on NJ rooftops celebrating 9/11. Or Ted Cruz's father knocking off JFK.

    Do you think maybe you could get Trump working on the Jimmy Hoffa case? How about getting to the bottom of what the Loch Ness Monster is? Bigfoot? So many mysteries for Trump to solve! Better get those Hawaiian investigators on the case...you won't believe what they found.

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    The Washington Times is a paper that was founded by a religious cult (the famous Moonies). It's still owned by the head Moonie, a man who claims to be the messiah. It is frequently mocked by academic institutions for reporting falsehoods.

    This is your source.
     
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    And a serious felony to pick them up for.
     
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    That s why Obama punished the Cubans on his way out
     
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    Well you want fewer immigrants.
     
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    Not saying that I agree with the paper, but it's no better or worse than the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, New York Times, Washington Post, etc., ad nauseum.
     
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    lol a poll, wake me up when there is actual proof
     
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    The Daily Express is a tabloid that publishes celebrity gossip, faux scandals, crime gossip, pranks, hoaxes, etc. Since you're posting Google searches as sources, you might want to search for "Red tops" or "Red top tabloids". They're gossip papers with no pretense at real journalism.

    In simple terms, they make things up.
     
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    Isn't Princess Diana alive outside the EU with Madeline McCann?
     
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    oh good god. A 2013 puny* poll of 800 Hispanics inappropriately extrapolated to all 11.8 non-citizen Hispanics in the US and their voting behaviour in 2016... Then this crap article cites another poll by ODU with (apparently) 95% confidence intervals for estimates of illegal voting from 38,000 to 2.8 million illegal voters. Both 38,000 and 2.8 million are equally likely given the way the statistics are cited, but the good old Washington Times goes with the higher number. Why? Because bias, or ignorance, or both. By the way, those two numbers are equally unlikely if (and that is a big if**) the study is accurate.

    I teach in behavioural sciences at an excellent university, and if a second year student had turned in a report like this article I'd fail their sorry a$$. It's time journalists are required to take, and pass, courses in serious statistical analysis.

    *800 is puny compared to the polls most social scientists conduct (thousands at a minimum). Why are polls so big? To reduce the margin of errors in estimates, for instance like the estimate of non-citizen immigrants reporting they voted in US elections. Repeat after me: samples can differ from the population from which they were drawn. We are not given the numbers allowing us to determine the possible error in estimates in this case, so the number used by the Washington Times is effectively useless. Useless.

    **This study relied on self-report, and thus it depends on how the respondents interpreted the question (and we are not given information about what the question was), how honest they were, whether or not they took the questionnaire seriously, etc. Self-reports are notoriously inaccurate. They only way to answer the question about illegal voting is an actual audit.
     
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